"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"jim--" wrote in message
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Seems to me to be nothing more than a lot of opinion presented as
facts.
;-)

The facts that we rank no higher than 20th in infant survival (no
smart
remarks
about abortion), that our kids are only slightly better immunized
than
those in
Botswana, and that life expectancy for both men and women is lower
here
than in
most industrialized nations aren't "opinions." but rather
statistics.

We do have the finest health care money can buy, if you are in the
decreasing
percentage of the population with money enough to buy it. But why
not?
Why
shouldn't the average cough-and-sniffles pediatrician haul in
$250,000
salary a
year
and actual "miracle workers" (oncologists, brain surgeons, etc)
over
7-figures?
Our system is becoming one of the super-elite catering to the
super-elite.
It's
the middle class that gets screwed the worst- the dirt poor will
be
taken
care
of by the state, the very rich get decent health care as a company
perk,
and
the middle class guy earning $1250 a week is hammered for 20% of
his
pre-tax
income to pay for a family's health insurance.

Blame the legal system for allowing multi million dollar
settlements,
causing insurance rates for doctors and for families to skyrocket.

Fix that problem first.



You WON'T fix that problem anytime soon. Meanwhile, the real reason
you
object to universal health care is that it fits your 6th grade
understanding
of socialism.



Dennis never completed the 6th grade...

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2 very intelligent replies addressing the issue at hand.



There's no evidence from your postings here that you ever completed the
sixth grade. You don't write well, you don't read well, and you seem to
have lots of problems with abstract thinking. Plus, you are suffering
from early onset Alzheimer's.



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A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

Quite frankly I could care less what you think of me. *I* know I am more
successful, more intelligent and live a very happy life...one I do not have
to fabricate to try to seem important in an obscure boating NG.

So how is that custom made 36 foot lobster boat and your doctor doctor wife?
LOL!

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in
Are these illegal immigrants? Or refugee status?

I would think a combination.

Can't be a refugee and an illegal immigrant at the same time. Once is
recognized as entering legally while the other is recognized as entering
illegaly.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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Can't be a refugee and an illegal immigrant at the same time. Once is
recognized as entering legally while the other is recognized as entering
illegaly.

I'm sure Bill understood that some 'new arrivals' could be classified as
refugee and some as illegal immigrants.
Most enter legally as our Federal Gov't has a policy to attract approx. 200k
yearly.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:45:59 -0400, NOYB wrote:


But who the hell wants to move to Canada?

"Canada absorbs more immigrants per capita than any other country."

From:

http://www.how2immigrate.net/canada/

Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message Name one other country
that will let you enter it illegally and start
sucklinig at the goverment teat?

You're not so special. Canada has similar policies for certain groups in
certain situations.



Are these illegal immigrants? Or refugee status?



If it weren't for illegals, you'd be outa business.

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A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush;
A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

jim-- wrote:


Quite frankly I could care less what you think of me. *I* know I am more
successful, more intelligent and live a very happy life...one I do not have
to fabricate to try to seem important in an obscure boating NG.

You certainly have earned your ignorance, Mr. LOL Alzheimer's.
What was your wife's name? Do you remember?



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A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message Name one other
country
that will let you enter it illegally and start
sucklinig at the goverment teat?

You're not so special. Canada has similar policies for certain groups
in
certain situations.



Are these illegal immigrants? Or refugee status?



If it weren't for illegals, you'd be outa business.

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A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush;
A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

I see you do not know much about business either.

Calif Bill wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message Name one other
country
that will let you enter it illegally and start
sucklinig at the goverment teat?

You're not so special. Canada has similar policies for certain groups
in
certain situations.



Are these illegal immigrants? Or refugee status?



If it weren't for illegals, you'd be outa business.

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A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush;
A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

I see you do not know much about business either.




Sure I do, bill. You operate as an unlicensed contractor, without
workers' comp insurance for your day laborers, whom you pick up at
shape-ups, and you're resentful of those contractors who play by the
rules and get jobs where they have to post bonds and prove they carry
the proper insurance.





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A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush;
A vote for Bush is a vote for Apocalypse.

Chuck, within three blocks of my house are six houses which have been
purchased
by Mexican families, extended families! In each yard and driveway are from
six
to nine automobiles and/or pickups. The house next to me sold for $549,000
last
month. With four or five family groups (or singles) putting their incomes
(welfare checks?) toward the mortgage, they can qualify for a loan.

I don't need sorrow.

You should thank your lucky stars you've got some industrious new Hispanic
neighbors.

When I was in the used car business, I always did a certain amount of "buy
here, pay here" transactions. I took a chance on a few hundred BHPH people over
the years, and probably half of them bit me in the butt as a result. I've
chased cars in the middle of the night, hired OOS repo companies, and I
narrowly escaped with my life on one memorable repo.

I did this kind of business because the other half of the BHPH customers, (the
ones that didn't wind up getting impounded outside a Jr. High School with a
trunk load
of dope......yeah, really) used the opportunity to make something out of their
lives. Put a guy in a reaonably reliable old beater, and he can get to work 5-6
days a week. A struggling single mom can get the
kids into after school activities if they don't have to ride the school
bus....etc.

I had a number of customers eventually "graduate" to a point where their credit
allowed them to get a loan from a real bank, instead of Foolish Gould's High
Risk
Portfolio. At least one family qualified for a home mortgage, and they took the
time to drop by the lot and thank me for giving them a chance to start their
credit when nobody else would touch them.

I only mention this because, even though I
am absolutely against racial stereotyping, my Hispanic customers were the least
hassle of anybody. (Worst? Young single white men.)

If your new neighbors are anything at all like the Hispanics I have met over
the years, they are one of the few immigrant groups who aspire to the
"traditional" American dream. They want to assimilate and be American. Yes, the
first generation will speak Spanish, but they will take pride in how well their
kids speak English.

Most of the Hispanics I have dealt with over the years are willing to work hard
and earn their keep. They take pride in providing for their families and paying
bills on time. (It's a sort of "macho" thing, in a way). We white folks, (I am
presuming, based on previous comments you have made that you are white), tend
to look at people who immigrated here from Europe and say "Look, there goes a
good American!" In another generation, some of the "best" Americans will be
from Asia and Latin America. Count on it. Many of the folks from those cultural
backgrounds are just plain willing to outwork and outsave the rest of us.

And lastly, see if you can figure out who is making mortgage loans for 1/2
million dollar homes to welfare recipients. I seriously doubt that any of your
local banks are doing that. (Bank loans are subject to regulatory
audit....nobody is going to approve making a RE loan to a loosely assembled
group of welfare recipients). If you *should* find a local bank making half
million dollar mortgage loans to people on welfare, either borrow as much as
you can as fast as you can from them or get every last dime of your money
transferred somewhere else. :-)

Name one other country that will let you enter it illegally and start
sucklinig at the goverment teat?



Spelling not withstanding, what you DON'T understand is the fact that
we allow these aliens here purely to exploit them. They work here,
they spend here, they pay taxes here. They should be entitled to the
purveyances that those sales taxes are meant to provide.