On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 14:58:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2015 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"

I put my opinion about this and it was lost in the noise.

We should be teaching everyone to FIGHT BACK.
If everyone in that room scattered and immediately started throwing
everything they could pick up, at the shooter, he would be too busy
ducking to shoot and they could take him down.

There is no down side. The ONLY way he can kill them all is if they
stand there patiently and wait their turn.

One unarmed guy tried to "fight back" in the latest shootings and he got
shot 7 times. Fortunately he survived.

Weren't we talking about mass shootings where gunmen were in a room
full of people and there was no chance that you could just cooperate
and get away.
How many times would he have been shot if he stood still and waited
his turn.

I think more lives are saved by following protocol ... meaning
people move into a secure area, lock the door, shut off the lights and
stay quiet.

Fine but what happens when the bad guy comes in that room and turns
the light back on?
Maybe you can't get to a secure area, you are all in the break room
with no door on it and light coming in from outside. Most modern LEED
buildings have plenty of natural light.

If everyone immediately started throwing **** at the gunman, he would
have to start thinking about ducking because the incoming might just
be a coffee cup or it might be a lap top charger "slung" from a 3'
cord. A pound or so, coming in at a few hundred feet per second is
going to leave a mark.
These guys are not specially trained SWAT guys, they are just
insecure losers for the most part and losing control of the situation,
even for a few seconds might be all it takes to stop them.

As I said, what would you have to lose?
It isn't a robbery, he is there to kill you.