On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:57:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/5/2015 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:44:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/5/15 3:35 PM, True North wrote:
The Johnny spews..

"One round'll getcha all."

Heard that a bunch of times!"


Really...did you ever learn your lessons?



Frankly, I think the "advice" being given here on how best to protect
yourself and others from a mass murderer armed with firearms is so much
happy horse****.

When the alternative is to sit still and wait your turn to be shot,
why is fighting back "horse ****". The shooter wants to control the
room, don't let him.
These guys are insecure losers most of the time and if you can disrupt
their plan, and confuse them, you might get the seconds you need to
take him down. You certainly do not want to follow the order to all
get in one corner. Spread out and try to surround him. If nothing
else, it is harder to hit a moving target.
I would rather die fighting than praying or crying.

I also believe filling the air with thrown objects will enhance the
chaos and disrupt his plan.

Are you really going to be the one saying "there is nothing you can
do"?



It sounds like a great plan but it's something you would only see in the
movies. Events are happening quickly, the victims are unarmed
civilians and they don't have the benefit of practice drills to
condition themselves to the sound of flying bullets whizzing their heads
as they look for the book they are supposed to chuck at the shooter. In
short, they are terrified and the instinct is to cover your head and
duck. There might be one or two, like the ex-military guy
who tried to go after the shooter (and got shot 7 times in the process)
but for the most part the victims are not in any way prepared.

The situation in the airplane over Pennsylvania on 9/11 was totally
different. Nobody was shooting and the people that rushed the hijackers
knew what was happening (received cell phone calls about the the Twin
Towers). They had time to converse and come up with a plan among
themselves knowing there weren't any other options.

Nobody has told people what to do. The whole philosophy comes from
robbery advice. Cooperate, give up your stuff and maybe you will be
OK.
This is a totally different thing. Certainly if you can hide, do it
but if you have a plan when you get caught, you have a lot better
chance than simply waiting to be shot.

It is really pretty simple, scatter and throw anything you can pick
up. The guy might just try another room. If nothing else, he will
always be trying to look over his shoulder instead of having everyone
lined up right in front of him.
If you ever had a teenager, you know they are familiar with throwing
stuff when they get mad.
Why not just teach this?
What do you have to lose?

I think you and Harry would be surprised at how much aggression is
inside kids these days and all you have to do is bring it out. Use the
power of the mob!