On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 18:03:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/5/2015 5:05 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:51:03 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/5/15 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:44:41 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/5/15 3:35 PM, True North wrote:
The Johnny spews..

"One round'll getcha all."

Heard that a bunch of times!"


Really...did you ever learn your lessons?



Frankly, I think the "advice" being given here on how best to protect
yourself and others from a mass murderer armed with firearms is so much
happy horse****.

When the alternative is to sit still and wait your turn to be shot,
why is fighting back "horse ****". The shooter wants to control the
room, don't let him.
These guys are insecure losers most of the time and if you can disrupt
their plan, and confuse them, you might get the seconds you need to
take him down. You certainly do not want to follow the order to all
get in one corner. Spread out and try to surround him. If nothing
else, it is harder to hit a moving target.
I would rather die fighting than praying or crying.

I also believe filling the air with thrown objects will enhance the
chaos and disrupt his plan.

Are you really going to be the one saying "there is nothing you can
do"?



I don't think you're going to get a bunch of students in an American
classroom to do much of anything in concert. Plus, if a shooter walks
into a classroom, the students will likely be sitting down at desks or
maybe in a lecture hall.


Maybe that is something they should work on.
I think you are just underestimating what people can do
Passengers fighting back has more to do with stopping hijacking than
anything TSA is doing. There still seems to be no problem getting a
gun on a plane but I doubt you could take an airliner with an uzi
today. People understand this is not going to be a trip to Cuba. This
guy plans on killing everyone.

The crux is to keep firearms out of the hands of the crazies. There are
things that can be down that will help in that direction.

That might do something in 20 or 30 years but we need an answer now.
There are hundreds of millions of guns here now, if they stopped
making them tomorrow.




"Hey Joe, what's that there you're packin'?"

"War and Peace" ... you?

"Adventures of Tom Sawyer. Light weight but packs a punch".




Way back when I started this, I suggested just putting some missiles
in the room although I bet if you looked around you would see plenty
right there. I suggested if you got a lap top charger swinging in a 3'
cord and let it go, you would generate a whole lot of foot pounds on
the terminal end. One of those whizzes by your head and you would be
ducking at everything else.

I am sure guys trained in tactics could do a better job than the spit
balling I am doing here but the objective is to make these kind of
places harder targets than they are now. That would be very easy if
the current plan is to just cooperate until everyone is dead.

Simply teaching people to scatter instead of allowing themselves to be
bunched up is a start.