On 11/4/2015 1:30 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/4/15 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:56:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/4/15 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:58:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/4/15 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:20:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/4/2015 8:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
...has a liberal bias...

So, is the mainstream media really left-wing, or even liberal,
as those
on the right love to claim?

Tt should be noted that the real world tends to have a liberal
bias — at
least what Ted Cruz considers a liberal bias. Take climate
change, for
example. The fact that the climate is warming because of human
activity
is a completely uncontroversial notion; it is happening, and the
vast
majority of scientists agree that it will be catastrophic for
humanity
if nothing is done very soon. That the mainstream media does not
contest
the issue of climate change, or claim that it is some giant
left-wing
conspiracy, does not prove it is liberal, but that it is
operating in
reality. Cruz does not operate in reality, and believes climate
change
(i.e. science) is a “religion.” But just because Cruz believes
this, or
his deranged father, Rafael, believes that evolution is a
communist lie,
does not mean that evolutionary biologists are communists or that
climate scientists are religious fanatics — it means that Rafael
Cruz
and his son are delusional.

http://tinyurl.com/nmqhdxk

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Yup.



How and from what sources has the "real world" been convinced that
climate change is a result of human activity? Who has declared that
human activity being the cause is an "uncontroversial notion"?

Why, of course. Liberals and the liberal media.

There is plenty of science that demonstrates that CO2 levels have
risen because of man but it seems to be the rise of agriculture as
much as anything else they have proven. This is an 8000 year trend
and
tracks population as closely as any other metric.

Nuclear war will fix it but that may not be the way we want to go.
;-)



What's the libertarian approach? Do nothing?

Only do things that help. Snake oil like carbon credits and ethanol
don't help anything but the bottom line of the people who sell it.

We should be figuring what we are going to do in a warmer world, not
deluding ourselves that we can change it.
That is still far from the biggest danger we face. We have people like
you wringing their hands about global warming that may affect our
great grandchildren and ignoring the debt bubble that could crush the
world economy in a matter of weeks.
It certainly appears that the resulting nuclear war seems to be the
democratic plan for global warming.


Ahh, life in the libertarian bubble...don't do anything.

Are you just acting like you are obtuse or is it a reading
comprehension problem?
My point is the clear and present danger is not some theory about what
may happen in 100 years but a real debt problem that could affect the
whole world tomorrow.
Just look at how fast the markets crashed over a little dip in housing
prices. Within a couple of months, the banks didn't even think the
houses they were using for collateral were valuable enough to
foreclose on. The government's plan was to simply print more money to
cover the debt the bailout created.
I understand people like you see no problem with that but it is going
to blow up on all of us eventually.
The fact remains that the US is buried in debt and the left's answer
is to simply lift our credit limit without actually showing any
increase in income. That is exactly what caused the housing crash.


So, your solution for global warming is to adapt ourselves to a hotter
world (in other words, do nothing), and worry about the debt problem,
instead. I get it.

In the short term, I'd be more worried about the decline of the middle
class in this country and the lack of upper mobility for those in the
lowest income levels. I think we'll have a violent revolution long
before the world roasts us alive or debt buries us.

Oh, increase in income. Yes, that would be nice. What's your proposal
for that? Get rid of environmental and food safety regs?

You liberals screwed up the economy. You liberals screwed up the
healthcare system. You liberals are promoting gayism and abortion. You
liberals are encouraging illegal immigration. You liberals won't keep
your promise to get out of the middle east. And now you want to ****
with mother nature. No way Jose. Viva la revolution.