On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 02:36:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2016 6:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:39:29 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/21/2016 4:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/21/16 4:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2016 2:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:24:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


So what? Every minute of the day approximately 20 people in the USA is
a victim of domestic violence. It's not unique to the Palin
family. They are not super humans. It's not right, of course, but to
single out one family's problems for political purposes
isn't right either. If Palin's son is guilty, he should face the
music.
If he has military related problems, he should also get help, although
the track record of mental health professionals actually making a
difference isn't all that great. Sometimes I think they can cause more
problems than they solve.

The cure seems to be to drug the person into passivity and that is
ironic since it is usually substance abuse that got them into trouble
in the first place. "Self medicating" is bad but if a doctor
prescribes stronger drugs, it is just "medicine".



It is hard for me to fathom that so many people now-a-days have mental
health issues that require drugs to treat. Seems like being on
anti-depressants is the "in" thing. Same with drugging up every other
school kid because they have ADHD or ADD. For cripes sakes, kids are
*supposed* to be hyperactive and wear their parents out. Their
attention spans are short because they are *kids*, not because there is
something wrong with them. I agree with Harry. We are being duped by
the pharmaceutical industry and the arrangements they have with
hospitals and clinics.



It's cheaper in many cases for the insurance companies to pay to drug up
patients rather than pay for enough pragmatic therapy to help them learn
how to control their aberrant behavior. Sometimes, mild forms of drugs
help to, for example, take the edge off patients without turning
them into near zombies, and the talk therapy can be more effective. But
there's no one hat fits all answer with mental illnesses.


Don't get me started on this subject. Drugging up so many young kids to
cure "aberrant behavior" is a lazy, stupid and selfish practice. We all
displayed aberrant behavior from time to time as kids ... sometimes as
adults ... but it certainly doesn't mean drugs are required. I was a
bit of a creative hell raiser as a kid but my corrective "drug" was a
six foot, five inch, 240lb old man. One of his "looks" usually cured
the aberrant behavior ... and quickly.


I'm on your side on this one. I think most of my grandkids are on Ritalin or some
damn thing. I blame computers and computer games, and parents, of course. But mostly
I blame the damn doctors who prescribe the ****. Of course, smacking a kid on the
butt is not the 'liberal progressive' thing to do. Probably not politically correct
either.

I know of no one in my generation, or the following one, who was classified ADD or
ADHD. Although, I have heard of 'adult onset' ADD. I think that's another
narcissistic ploy for attention.


I am sure there are some cases where medication is needed but I think
it's a fraction of what is being diagnosed and prescribed. Common sense
has become obsolete in many cases.


My oldest grandson (18) definitely needs the medication. Without it he can't control
himself, and he knows it.
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