On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 11:35:24 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 23 Jul 2017 06:44:59 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

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On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:54:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
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...until it is slammed by a few missiles...

Air craft carrier are to scare 3d world dictators who don't have
missiles


Those numbers are dwindling

There are still plenty of countries with no real "over the horizon"
capabilities. A CBG is really a pretty capable projection of power
with missile ships all around it and a hunter killer sub or two
underwater. If we make up our mind nobody is going to get close, they
won't.
Firing a missile at a carrier will get your location cratered and if
we are ****ed enough a nuke crater.

Even my old rusty Coast Guard cutter was going to be like squashing a
wasp. You still had a real good chance of getting stung. We had 4-6
homing torpedoes on board and the first thing I did as mount commander
was to preset the last known position of any sub in range and if it
was "not a drill" I was supposed to pull the salt water plugs and the
tampions. When the 02 deck went under, those fish were going hunting,
if we were dead or not.


Firing a half dozen missiles from truck based launchers will do the job.

There is a real good chance that we can knock down a half dozen cruise
missiles in the 100 miles or so that a CBG would be standing off. If
they have nuke warheads it is WWIII anyway so losing the carrier is
preferable to San Francisco.


There are plenty of legit analyses extant that discuss the vulnerability of
our super carriers.

Not so much when you look at the 3d world people we tend to target
with them these days. I agree if China or Russia wants to kill a
carrier, they can but Somali pirates, ISIS fighters in Syria or frisky
North African dictators don't stand a chance.
The current bad guy is Kim but if he took a shot at one of our
carriers, it would end up being the end of N Korea as we know it and a
good chance of that WWIII I was talking about (depending on what China
does). In that regard a carrier is looked at more like a city than as
a ship. Nuking the USS Ford would have the same effect as Nuking
Seattle. It is unlikely that a few conventional warheads would sink a
carrier. These are not the small, thin skinned destroyers that have
taken missile hits or suicide attacks and even those lived to fight
another day.