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On 1/31/18 1:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2018 1:22 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/18 1:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2018 1:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/18 12:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2018 11:14 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:


Trump is your evangelism. You're in the bag for him, and it makes
you nervous when everyone else doesn't share your Trump fandom.


Trump announced in his State of the Union speech that his
administration had “ended the war on beautiful, clean coal.”

It was a puzzling remark. Most of the coal plants Trump has tried
to boost are hardly clean compared with other forms of energy. In
fact, they create some of the most polluting power there is.



Rather than just regurgitating the approved position of the left
regarding coal, let's examine the real world, shall we?

First of all, coal still generates 30 percent of the energy used in
the United States.* It is second only to natural gas that produces
34 percent.

Energy produced by nuclear power currently supplies 20 percent.

Renewable energy sources consisting of hydro, wind, biomass, solar
and geothermal contribute 15 percent.

"Petroleum" makes up 1 percent.

Looking forward and planning for future energy needs, the outlook
for nuclear power looks bleak.* There are 61 nuke plants in
operation with
one new one that came on line in 2016.* Two more are being built in
Georgia* despite calls to stop their construction.* If completed,
they will come on-line some time in 2021 or 2022.* However, the
scheduled shutdown of existing and aging nuke plants is happening
faster than new plants can be approved, permitted and built.* Plus,
the cost of a modern nuke plant is incredibly expensive.* So, we
can't plan on that 20 percent of energy for very long.

For future planning, where will that energy deficit come from?

Renewable sources are being built anywhere land can be acquired and
permits can be obtained.* But, despite technological advances
especially in solar, it's a stretch to think renewables can
contribute enough to produce as much power as coal, nuke and the 15
percent they contribute now. Some of the sources have devastating
affects on geology and other environmental concerns.

Technological advances is being, and should continue to be
developed to keep coal in the game.* Coal supplies in the United
States are far more plentiful than domestic oil or natural gas;
they account for more than 90 percent of the country's fossil fuel
reserves and more than 60 percent of the world's fuel reserves.

It's a planning thing ... not an idealistic brain fart.






Try reading for content. My comment was about Trump boasting about
"ended the war on beautiful, clean coal."

Coal isn't beautiful or clean.


Holy crap.* You really are something else.


You mean because I posted something specific about a false Trump
comment and you didn't get it?



I got exactly what he was implying.* You don't.

You are wasting my time trying to discuss anything with you.* You're as
slippery as an eel.



Coal is neither beautiful nor clean. That statement of Trump's was a
lie, no matter how you try to spin it. What was Trump "implying" with
those words?