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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/18 7:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:40:51 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 11:08:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 07:12:21 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 20:11:38 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/2/18 6:34 PM, justan wrote:
To determine what happens or doesn't happen on public property.

President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the
1990s,
including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the
fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New
York
Times has found.

Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made
billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the
legendary New
York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help.

But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of
confidential tax
returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the
equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real
estate
empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day.

Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his
parents dodge
taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise
millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and
interviews
show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take
improper
tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a
strategy
to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of
millions
of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those
properties were transferred to him and his siblings.

These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue
Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary
Trump,
transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which
could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55
percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances.

The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax
records show.

Shame on them for following the law. Gosh, I circumvent paying
taxes by contributing to charity.
Shame on me for taking the deduction!

Harry would say you are establishing religion.

I'll admit some goes to religion, but most goes elsewhere.

The reality is religious organizations as a rule return more of their
contributions to the charity they support than the normal 501(C)(3)
that we hear about (Red Cross, United Way etc)
Their "directors" are not making 6 figure salaries.
Folks like Harry would rather promote egregious greed than admit
someone was promoting God

And there you go, offering up another example of one the reasons why I
don't think it worthwhile to engage in "debate" with you. You have no
idea what I would "rather promote."

I suspect churches spend more on promoting and paying themselves,
their superstitions, their staffs, and their building funds than they
do on pure charitable donations. Realistically, they consider
themselves their own best charitable donation. We have a surprisingly
large number of what might be called "mega-churches" around here,
churches with fairly new or brand new huge fortresses of buildings,
with large staffs, highly paid ministers, assistants, cars, even
airplanes for the ministers. It takes a lot of money to support that
sort of largess. It is unclear what real charities...helping the poor,
those in need of shelter, medical care, the necessities of life, as it
were...these organizations support. One thing most of them do, though,
is pay for "missions" to search and bring in converts. Just the other
day, I drove past a fundie church whose minister and some of its
acolytes who were busy setting up their anti-abortion display to
attract attention during the upcoming elections. I'm not aware of
what that church does to support the unwanted children who result from
their efforts.

And, once again, though you never seem to "get it," I don't care what
churches do, so long as they keep their superstitions to themselves
and don't try to force in any way their beliefs on others who believe
differently or not at all.

You are incapable of debating anything, deadbeat.