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On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:38:01 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 21:43:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 12:31:07 AM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

Why were the MOV to ground, instead of across the lines? Or a bigger value
Varistor to ground?

Because of the twisted pair, the danger isn't usually voltage spike across the pair, but rather the spike potential from the pair to ground. That's what we were trying to protect from. And what protection components on 66 punch blocks from back in the day did as well.

As far as the value, it's a bit of a tightrope. Too low of a value, and it's always firing and causing issues like we experienced. Too big of a value, and you may as well not have any protection on there at all. Even a transformer doesn't protect you, as it has an arc-over value. We thought the 180v parts would be OK, but we didn't realize that the lines would be as dirty as they were.

You might have done better with 500k or so between both legs and
ground (one meg across the signal lines, center tapped to ground).
That phantom voltage might have just disappeared. That is essentially
what a Telco carbon protector is but the resistance is lower.

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Telcos have been using carbon protectors for close to 100 years.
Designed by Bell Labs, and built by Western Electric, they had a lot
of serious engineering and experience behind them. Of course all of
that pre-dated solid state electronics and their sensitive little
gates.

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