Once again the novice makes the novice blunder.

The phrase "not to impede" has a very specific meaning, separate from "give-way" and is
used differently. Farwell has a lengthy discussion, clearly way over Neal's head, so I
won't bother repeating it here. However, it starts with:

'However, the words "avoid impeding" do not have the same unequivocal meaning as do those
of "give-way" '

and it goes on to explain that one refers to the responsibility of the sailboat crossing a
channel, the other of the powerboat in the channel.

For the lurker who might want the truth: the bottom line is that the crossing sailboat
should make sure there is plenty of room for the powerboat to go around. In practical
terms, this means stay out of its way, especially if the powerboat is much larger.
However, if a "risk of collision develops," the powerboat must still act as the giveway
vessel and do whatever it can.

One can also look to the IMO (The authors of the ColRegs) for guidance. They make it
pretty clear that rule 8f was added to clarify the meaning of "shall not impede" in rule 9
and 10.

Why is that the professional captains, the standard textbook, and the authors of the rule
all agree on its meaning, and yet Neal stands alone in his opinion?





"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Impede means to interfere with the progress of.

A vessel that shall not impede is mandated by the
Rules to not interfere with the progress of another
vessel. This is so simple I'm surprised you had to
ask. Something this basic is child's play for an
experienced Master mariner such as yours truly.

When a Rule states that a vessel shall not impede
and allow plenty of searoom then I know the rule
means one vessel should not interfere with the
progress of another and shall provide plenty of
searoom to the vessel it shall not impede.

In other words the give-way vessel shall not
impede the stand-on vessel in any way at any
time and yes, even at sea where searoom exists.

S.Simon.


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...
As expected, just another typical diatribe which in no way addresses the
issues at hand.
Admit it SS .... you can't answer the question about the tug.
As for time on your boat counting for renewal ..... sorry .....doesn't
.... your license is for a powerdriven vessel of a certain tonnage ....
you sure you still have that license? Didn't let it lapse didja?

Still don't know what "impede" refers to, do ya? Ah well, don't despair,
you don't understand the rest of the rules either, so at least you're
consistent.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
I've got more than enough time on the water in my fine
vessels both offshore and nearshore to renew easily.

I won't have to retake any test questions but even if I
did it would be no problem because I know all the answers
by virtue of my superior understanding of the COLREGS.

What you have yet to learn is a superior understanding of
the Rules comes only after years of study and years of
practical application in a small sailing vessel. Sitting in
a wheelhouse on some big ship sheltered from the wind,
the waves, normal ocean sounds and sights simply gives
you a case of the 'armchair motorboater's syndrome"
which results in impaired sensory input, impaired reaction,
impaired application of the Rules and impaired responsibility.

Being on the receiving end of motorboater ignorance and
arrogance of which you, Shen44, and Jeff Morris display
and abundance, is the best way to learn the ins and outs of
the Rules provided one can survive your attempts to run
us down. I have survived and I shall continue to survive and
learn. I welcome all your displays of ignorance because they
allow me to become stronger and safer since I know how
the levels of ignorance upon which you all proceed impair
your judgment and required action.

I realize you three don't have a clue what 'shall not impede'
means because you have proven you are all clueless.

I realize you will persist in impeding vessels you are supposed
to give a wide berth in any condition of visibility and this makes
you all the more dangerous in restricted visibility. I know your
pride does not allow you to believe that motorboats must
give way to any and all vessels signaling one prolonged/two
short blasts in a fog. I know you will wrongly interpret the
Rules so you will end up violating them by creating a close
quarters situation in your ignorance.

Thank God I know all this or I would have been run down
by your like years ago.

S.Simon


ROFL you couldn't answer ONE question, or address ONE issue, couldya
..... just a bunch of garbage .....