On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:09:11 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:21:01 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...


This will require focusing on the numbers in the paragraph.
Imagine a body of water. It's between 50 and 200 feet deep everywhere, 4
miles wide, and the water's flat as a pancake with no wind. Imagine that
it
has an East side and a West side. For whatever reason, the fishing's
terrific on the East side along the shore. There are 20 boats anchored or
drifting in a zone from the shore to a half mile out. Not a sound. A
penis
boat is flying back and forth within 1/4 mile of those boats, over and
over
again, when it could be doing its thing on the opposite side of the body
of
water. Forget the wake. Pretend it does not exist. Focus on the noise.

This is NOT what you like to call a "straw man".

It's a perfect example of a strawman. It does not reflect reality.

Sorry, Dave, but this refers to Lake George. The same scenario repeats
itself on Seneca Lake, Cayuga Lake, Canandaigua Lake, Conesus Lake, and
plenty of others.

Guys run offshore performance boats there?


Assuming that you're 100% factual, and have not injected any bias or
prejudice into your "strawman", the fact that ONE guy acts like an
idiot does not translate to the whole sport being subject to the same
prejudice.

The "one guy" must have a lot of cousins who think alike, because they're
everywhere.

I've never seen them on any of my usual haunts, which includes the
Chesapeake Bay

You must not go out on the Bay very often, Dave, or you must stay in the
little feeder creeks on the perimeter. Where do you boat when you go out
on the Bay, Dave?


I'm primarily in the upper end, where the water is still somewhat
fresh. I can be found in the C&D canal, the Bohemia and Sassafras
Rivers, and in Northeast and Charlestown






Why does the
owner of the penis boat not understand the situation?

You are projecting the actions of jetski's onto those of performance
boat operators.

Nobody mentioned jetskis.

No but "back and forth in the same general area" is behavior typically
associated with PWC operators. Those guys have obvious reasons why
they like to congregate in a relatively small area. Guys who have
performance boats can go much further, and in greater comfort, so it
makes little sense for them to remain in the same area. Like I said
before, it makes no sense. I don't even like going to a water way
that's smaller than 7 or 8 miles, because I like to cruise. The only
exception is when I'm pulling water toys. Then, I like to find a
fairly protected cove or area, and use that.

Dave

Ahhh..you're the asshole who was tearing up the little cove around
Parker's Creek two weeks ago.

No, wasn't me. But if it was, what of it? If I'm giving my family and
friends a nice day of fun by pulling them around on various tubes and
skis, who are you to critique it? Unless, of course, you're the owner
of said area, in which case you have my sincerest apologies and
assurance that I'll not be trespassing there again. Of course the
signs warning unsuspecting boaters of this fact were curiously
missing.

Surely you're not about to make a value judgement based on nothing
more substantive than your opinion again are you?

Dave