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Harry Krause wrote:

Karl Denninger wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Let's say the Idiot Bush decides to attack Iran without Iran attacking
the US...in other words, what Bush calls a preemptive strike. Let's say
the Iranians, hopelessly outclassed in the order of battle, retaliate
with a nuke.

Well...if it happens that way, Bush will have done us in. Bush. Remember
that...


"Iran on Sunday rebuffed a proposal by U.S. presidential candidate John
Kerry who has suggested supplying the Islamic state with nuclear fuel for
power reactors if Tehran agrees to give up its own fuel-making capability."

Now what John? Talk to a brick wall? Guess so, since you won't do anything
about this without a "global test."

What's your point, Karl? That Kerry should give up on his idea because
he was turned down once? That there's no sense in negotiations? That the
only way is war?

War is a form of diplomacy.

When you refuse to hold this card up your sleeve, and "flash" it from time
to time, thereby making clear that you WILL play it if necessary, you
encourage the "nuts" responses from those whom you wish to negotiate with.

Negotiating from a position of weakness is how you lose.

In this case, the stakes are quite literally our lives and way of life.

You're smarter than that, Karl. Stop being Bush's stooge.

I am nobody's stooge.

Having successfully conducted many negotiations, some of them bare-knuckle
smackdowns, I'm well-aware of the dynamics at work.

It is pure insanity to postulate in public that you will apply a "global
test" to America's interests, or to make statements about running all your
intentions through the UN Security Council - the very same UN that was
bought and bribed by Saddam with great success.

PS I think Iran already has nukes. bought on the rree market.

I don't.

The day they really do have them, we will find out.

Unfortunately.

As I sit here this morning I am watching one of Kerry's stooges (Lockhart)
talking about how Kerry is going to "bring all the international partners
from the first gulf war back in".

Oh really John? That's a lie, and Lockhart knows it.

France and Germany have already said in public "that ain't gonna happen, no
matter who is President and no matter what you promise us." So has Russia,
and so has China.

Note that there are several Vetos in there for the Security Council - and it
only takes ONE to call full stop.

The problem, Harry, is that sKerry CAN'T deliver - and he knows it.
His ENTIRE candidacy and indeed his ENTIRE public life has been one of
pacifism and appeasement - from Vietnam onward. His Senate record makes
CLEAR what he thinks of the military and use of force - he has nothing but
disdain for either.

While talking is a great idea, you must always be willing to back up your
bluster with force - otherwise you have NO leverage with which to bargain.

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