Capt. NealŪ wrote in message ...
But, how does one define a 'victim'?
Victim: Someone hurt by someones elses actions.
Does a victim have to be a human being? If so, it would
not be a crime to kill endangered species.
yes it would, you would be taking that species away from other people
who enjoy them. Its like stealing.
It would
not be a crime to wantonly pollute the environment.
yes it would. You do not own the enviroment...it owns you.
You could just dump your crap anywhere.
Then others would have to pay to clean it up. The ones who pay are
victims.
And what
about shooting somebody's dog. A dog certainly is not
human.
It is property of another human. And it has a right to be treated
humainly.
Until you can define 'victim' it is ludicrous to use
the term 'victimless crime'.
Can the environment be a victim?
Yes
Can a fetus be a victim?
Yes
Can an empty building somebody torches be a victim?
Yes if it has an owner, or someone has to pay to put it out.
"Victimless crime" - a typical example of liberal doublespeak.
It's not that complicated Neal.
Joe
Shame on Gilligan and any others for using the term, let
alone advocating for it.
CN
"Joe" wrote in message om...
Horvath wrote in message . ..
On 24 Nov 2004 18:55:21 -0800, (Joe) wrote
this crap:
Horvath wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:16:27 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:
I'm no liberal in the modern sense at all. I'm a classic liberal or
libertarian. I think drugs should be legal.
You've probably never seen one of your good friends whacked out on
coke.
So what? Ive seen thousand wacked out on Jack Daniels and such.
You have no idea what you are talking about. It's completely
different.
BULL****! Ive seen it all from junkies covered with cotton feaver
sores to dead drunks with there faces split in half when they had a
head on wreck with a telephone pole. Once I had the pleasure of
scraping a young girl off a submarine she did a swan dive on from 8
stories up, she was drunk and doing acid. Oh and the guy who choked on
his own vomit while on smack, he drowned.
But face it Horvath aint nothing you can do. If they want it they
will get it and take it.
Ive got better things to do then babysit retards who can not control
thier own actions or handle thier drug of choice. And I think anyone
should be free to do or take what ever he or she choses to do. Be an
adult and be responsiable for your own actions.
BTW I also know many people that smoke weed daily and own multi
million dollars businesses or have high profile careers and have no
problem with it at all. Just like I know some people that know when to
say when while drinking.
It aint the type of drug, it's the type of person using that drug.
Like Gilligan said, all victim less crimes should be abolished. And
the people that do victimise others should pay to the max.
Joe
Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!