Doug Kanter wrote:

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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I suspect that if you see Harry say this, he's being exquisitely
sarcastic.
NOYB, however, isn't kidding at all. Of course, that'll change the moment
one of his kids is old enough to join the military.

Actually it was the other way. Harry was not being sarcastic. NOYB
probably was.

Steve

Watch carefully. NOYB repeats this idea a few times a week in various
discussions. Either he's just monkeying with the assembled masses, or he
actually believes his spew. My theory: 10% of the time, it's the former, and
90% the latter.



I don't know what your reference is, but, immediately after 9-11, when
we were *told* by our government that Afghanistan as a government and a
country was directly involved, I suggested we nuke the country. In short
order, facts began rolling in and I changed my mind, and stated that
fact, since it became apparent that terrorist cells, and not the people
or at that time the practically non-existent government of Afghanistan
were involved. In other words, a foreign country had not declared war on us.

As the 9-11 story has evolved, it has become more apparent that those
terrorists as people aren't really any different than our home-grown
terrorists, like, for example, Tim McVeigh, or the abortion clinic
bombers, or any of the other violent right-wingers who poison our
humanity. The 9-11 folks are simply better funded and better organized.
But they are cut from the same right-wing, conservative cloth.

I always get a kick out of the rabid righties here who will point out
something political I may have posted a year ago or five years ago and
gleefully state that I must be a hypocrite because I have changed my mind.

Well, folks, the fact that I can change my mind and do means that I am
the exact opposite of a hypocrite. Further, I do not suffer from a rigid
personality. While I am not the smartest bear in the woods, nor the most
highly educated, nor the most experienced, I am pretty bright, I have
had a good education (which continues) and I have experienced a lot of
what life has to offer, good and bad.

I used to admire some "conservatives" in America because of their brain
power, their personal accomplishments, and what they had done for
society. I liked Truman, I liked Eisenhower, I had an overwhelming
fondness for Barry Goldwater, I like Gerry Ford, I like Bob Dole. Hell,
I even voted for some Republicans and, in fact, was *reared* a
Republican by my mother and while in public school got involved in one
of the campaigns to help re-elect Prescott Bush.

But the generation of conservatives that came in with Reagan, they're
out only for themselves, they're selfish, they're users, they're only
interested in lining their pockets and getting away with as much as they
possibly can. They have come damned close to absolutely ruining this
country and dissolvings its freedoms. They're dirty, they want to dirty
the air, the water, religion, the social contract - you name it and the
new conservatives have trashed it or are turning it into trash.

George W. Bush is their puppet. I'm not even sure he is smart enough to
be held responsible for his own actions. But for the moment, he's the
man. With God's help, we'll survive him and move on. If the rest of the
world lets us.

And as for the new conservatives, the mindless, goose-stepping masses of
them?

They can go **** themselves.









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