Scooby Doo wrote:

sherwindu wrote in
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Scooby Doo wrote:

sherwindu wrote in
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Scooby Doo wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote in
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Who - the Israelis? I thought they only used missiles on people
in wheel chairs?

What, terrorists can't ride around in wheel chairs? That should
help us narrow our search for these crazies. Only wheel chair
incident I recall is when the Arabs pushed a Jewish man in a wheel
chair off a cruise boat. Now that's a brave thing to do.

Yes, "The Arabs" did that. Everyone of them, via their elected
representatives and officially inducted military. Oh, wait, no, it
was just a couple of nuts. It's the elected representatives and
officially inducted military of *Israel* that kills, maims and
bulldozes innocents.

No, the Israeli army protects it's citizens.

1. It's "its", not "it's".

OK, you win all the arguements because of a gramatical mistake. How juvenile.



2. The international community has determined that those "citizens" are
living in occupied territory illegally. Even Ariel Sharon has
acknowledged as much, even though as others here have pointed out, the
Gaza "withdrawal" (if and when it actually happens" creates a prison for
the Pal's more than a country.

Unfortunately the
'couple' of nuts you mentioned is the pervasive mentality of the
Palestinians.

Proof? Didn't think so.

Hey, I spent 5 years of my life living in that region. What are your
credentials (reading the Palestinian websites, I imagine)?



For many years, their goal was to kill all Jews or
push them into the Mediterranean.

Living under illegal military occupation for 38 years will do that to ya,
ya know?

The Palestinians have had that goal even before Israel occupied the
territories. Nothing has changed.



The death toll for Palestinian CHILDREN is FOUR TIMES that of
Israelis.

Much of that is because the terrorists use children as human
shields.

Proof? Didn't think so.

When you see news coverage of uprisings in the territories, it is a bunch
of kids opposing the Israeli Army. They send their children to do their
dirty work.



Some of Israel's security
measures, like building walls, may seem extreme to some people, but
try and imagine yourself living there under a constant threat of
terrorist attack.

Try living for 38 years under military occupation. At this point,
it's EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES FOR A MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION.

There are all kinds of military occupations. Certainly the USA
occupation of Japan and Germany was not the same as the German and
Japanese occupation of the countries they occupied. The
Palestinians who obey the law and do not engage in terrorism do not
fear for their lives.

Tell that to the grandmothers whose homes are destroyed.

The Nazi's did much worse. By the way, it was the British that instituted the
policy of destroying the homes of terrorists. You might prefer that they take
the families out and shoot them like the Germans did in WWII.



Their biggest problem is economic.

Correct. Because of Israeli blockades and economic terrorism. The
Israeli has been known to burn down entire orchards of date trees - for
many villages their only means of economic survival.

Their
rich cousins in the Gulf states send meager amounts of money that
seem to always wind up in Yasser Arafat's Swiss Accounts, or go to
buying weapons.

Earth to moron: Arafat is dead.

I'm glad you enlightened me, as I sure needed that bit of information. We
are discussing an ongoing problem, not just today's realities. Arafat was typical
of the Palestinian infrastructure, and I'm sure his methods are being carried
out today. Your rhetoric leads me to believe I am discussing something with
a teenager, or someone who has not fully emerged from puberty.



Until the Palestinians
can show they have control of their own population, there is no
trusting them on security issues.

How many investigations of espionage and treason involving the
Palestinians have been conducted or are underway?

A lot more than any investigations the Palestinians are doing of
their terrorists.

Another pathetic dodge. When will you understand that Israel is NOT an
ally of the United States?

Well, I'm glad you are not determining our foreign policy. Why don't you
pick on a more deserving country, like France?