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in article , Michael Daly at
wrote on 10/12/05 5:17 PM:

On 12-Oct-2005, "KMAN" wrote:

Not if they start in an appropriate beginner environment.

And exactly what is that environment? Can you prove that it
is safer than any other?

Uh. Prove that it is safer...well, I'd say a sheltered bay with a sandy
bottom is safer than Niagara Falls. Or do I need to prove that to you?

Your statement lacks foundation and is totally false.

If so, you should be able to prove that.

You accused me of not understanding that swimming in whitewater is
dangerous. You have no foundation for the statement, and as the person being
accused, I am telling you it is false. Had you asked me if I thought
swimming in WW was dangerous, I would have of course answered in the
affirmative. As you went ahead and told me what I think (incorrectly) I
pointed out that your statement lacked foundation and is false. Which it is,
unless you can somehow prove that I think other than what I am stating as my
actual position on the issue.

I can send you stories of various professionally trained
kayakers who have been injured or perished.

Which only proves that you know some stories.

Mike

No, they will not be my stories. They will be objective third party news
articles. Let me know if you really need to see them.