Bob wrote:

i guess to a communist like skipper, 'traditional values' means a
concentration camp mentality.

Wouldn't mind living in one o' them Queen Creek camps. Nice digs! I
learned many of my traditional values running dirt bikes over those
sacred grounds. Held the #4 white plate for 2 years. ...But I much
preferred riding in the Cave Creek/Pinnacle Peak areas.

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Skipper