*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bush Adviser Says Iraq Weapons Data `Wrong,' Not Manipulated

Nov. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration had no intention of
misleading the public even though pre-war intelligence about Iraq's
possession of weapons of mass destruction was ``wrong,'' Stephen Hadley,
National Security Advisor, told the Cable News Network.

``This was a collective intelligence judgment. It was relied on by the
prior administration and other world leaders, the Congress, the
president of the United States,'' Hadley said. ``Turns out we were
wrong.''

Hadley said that allegations that the president tried to manipulate the
information to build a case for war ``are flat wrong.''
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Yeah, right. Sure. The hard core bush supporters will believe Hadley
because they have to...


I guess all these folks mislead us also:

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


It doesn't matter.

Sure it does. I matters a lot.

They didn't push the button that started the war,

Sure they did...when they gave him the authority to go to war.

and, of course, none of them had the intel Bush had. That's already been
revealed.


I did not see that. Could you repost it?

'Wash Post' Story Rejects Bush Claims on Pre-War Intel

By E&P Staff

Published: November 12, 2005 11:00 AM ET

NEW YORK Washington Post reporters Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus
offered today a front-page reply to President Bush's claims on Friday
that Democrats in Congress, now critical of the Iraq war, saw the same
pre-war intelligence that the White House did.

"Bush and his aides had access to much more voluminous intelligence
information than did lawmakers, who were dependent on the
administration to provide the material," the pair write. They also
point to Bush's claim that a congressonal commissions had cleared the
White House of manipulation, noting none were authorized "to determine
whether the administration exaggerated or distorted those conclusions."
The only committee investigating the matter in Congress, the Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence, has not been slow to press its
inquiry into whether officials mischaracterized intelligence by
omitting caveats and dissenting opinions.


Bush, in Pennsylvania yesterday, asserted that "more than 100 Democrats
in the House and the Senate, who had access to the same intelligence,
voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power."

But Pincus and Milbank write: "Bush does not share his most sensitive
intelligence, such as the President's Daily Brief, with lawmakers.
Also, the National Intelligence Estimate summarizing the intelligence
community's views about the threat from Iraq was given to Congress just
days before the vote to authorize the use of force in that country.

"In addition, there were doubts within the intelligence community not
included in the NIE. And even the doubts expressed in the NIE could not
be used publicly by members of Congress because the classified
information had not been cleared for release. For example, the NIE view
that Hussein would not use weapons of mass destruction against the
United States or turn them over to terrorists unless backed into a
corner was cleared for public use only a day before the Senate vote."