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Bill


Practicing coping without a P.E license?

Wait till asskisser hears about this!

Idiot reply. I said you can't legally practice engineering without a
license. Prove me wrong.

OFTEN ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS COVERING ENGINEERING PRACTICE
Q. Do I need a license to practice engineering is a corporation such as
Boeing?

A. No. There is an Industrial Exemption that allows engineers to work
without a license with the assumption that the Corporation has a
licensed
engineer responsible for all engineering done in the name of the firm.

Q. Can I legally do engineering work without a license in a firm that
does
not have a licensed engineer?

A. Yes. But, your work will not be accepted by any government agency
that
requires that a licensed engineer stamp all documents.

Here is the reference:

http://www.pseconline.org/Registration/

And that is pretty typical of most states.

You can NOT call yourself an engineer, have "engineer" in the name of
your company, etc. unless you are licensed to practice engineering in
that particular state, and like you've said, most states are typical.

Ok, so here is a question for you.

Let's say I have an engineering degree (M.E), Masters - Applied
Materials Science and a PhD in Mathematics - I cannot be an
engineer unless I pass some sort of license and/or professional
practicum governed by either the state or peer review?

Or let's take this case - I graduate from MIT as a ME, I am hired
as an ME, I work as for the company as an ME and I cannot
call myself an ME unless the state or professional organization
recognizes me as such?

The key to your example, is that the FIRM needs to have a licensed
engineer on staff. The rest, are designers. If you take the whole
picture into context, it changes. If you take just the parts that
you've snipped, then there would never be a need for anybody to be a
licensed professional engineer.

I recognize the need for professional engineers - my argument is
with the term engineer. One cannot be something unless one is
something. My argument is that one can be an engineer even if it
is at a junior or precept level. To wit: If I give a design project to
a junior engineer and I observe, review and approve his resulting
efforts, is that junior engineer not an engineer?

Later,

Tom