Bert Robbins wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Please Chuckie, whats your definition of a neocon?

(Since you asked)

Rather than a person who is newly conservative, (which a neocon may or may
not
be), a neocon is a person who subscribes to the "new" conservatism.

The new conseratism is a black vs. white philosophy. All things are either
very
good, or very wicked. The new conservatism, like all philosophies, defines
its
own values as the "very good" values and all others as the "very wicked".
All
values are extreme in neoconservatism. The Commander in Chief (they seldom
refer to him anymore as the president) is God's Chosen Leader for the
American
People, and those who oppose or even question Him are aiding and abetting
our
rapidly increasing number of enemies.

Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, and others epitomize the voices of
neoconservatism. It is a narrow minded and hateful, self congratulatory
and
autovindicated system of belief.

However, before all four conservatives who will even bother to read this
pick
up the nearest flame-thrower and come back with the moral-equivalency
excuses
about liberals do this, this, and this.......

Not all conservatives are neocons. There are a handful of traditional
conservatives left in the world. The traditional conservatives are shocked
at
the current size of the federal government and the dismal state of
government
fiscal affairs. The traditional conservatives respect dissent,
(recognizing
that at times it is their own voices that will be those of dissent, rather
than
majority) and are not trapped by binary thinking. I have a very high
regard for
traditonal, thoughtful, contemplative, rational conservatives.

The neo con says, "You're either with me, or against me!" The traditional
conservative says, "We either agree, or we need to work out a solution
that
will be at least somewhat acceptable to all sides. It could be that
neither of
us is *absolutely* right, and that there is more truth in the middle than
on
either extreme."

So, no. A neocon isn't somebody who "used to be a liberal but saw the
light".
(That's a fairly binary concept, that all people are either liberal or
conservative, anyway). A neocon is a binary thinker who used to be a
liberal,
moderate, or traditional conservative but who has been blinded by the
propaganda and bulldung. Not exactly the same thing. :-)

(You asked)

I am going to have to toss your definition by the side due to the fact that
it is more a political diatribe than a definition of a word. In fact, why
don't we use the definition that m-w.com has for neoconservative just to
make it easier for everyone to stay on the same page.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...eoconservative

Main Entry: neo·con·ser·va·tive
Pronunciation: -k&n-'s&r-v&-tiv
Function: noun
: a former liberal espousing political conservatism
- neo·con·ser·va·tism /-v&-"ti-z&m/ noun
- neoconservative adjective



Because that an absurd definition, and doesn;t describe the assholes who
are the current-day neocons, that's why.

But nice try.