On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:42:17 -0400, hk wrote:

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:00:58 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:58:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

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OK, lets try for some real info this time and no insults. Do so-
called offshore boats really have good scuppers? Can anybody provide
a link to a pic of such?
Next, areas below the deck, are they sealed on offshore boats or
accessible via a hatch? How much do said hatches leak? (my sealed
compartments have 6" screw in type access ports).


By that controversial Florida fellow:

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/sinking.htm

Eisboch

It's for sure this part is kind of scary:

"Open Transoms or boats with no transoms have been appearing on the market
with more frequency lately, and many of these are just accidents waiting to
happen. A boat without a transom cannot reasonably be called seaworthy
unless the internal compartments of the hull are made absolutely
watertight. This is almost never the case because the builders never put
absolutely watertight hatches in the decks.

They make a mistake by ignoring the probability that at some point in time
the vessel will encounter circumstances where waves are crashing over the
nonexistent transom, flooding the deck, and thereby endangering the vessel
and its passengers. Builders of such boats don't have the foresight (which
they should have) to consider what would happen if such a boat lost power
while navigating a dangerous inlet, or breaks down while at sea. Under
these circumstances, the lack of a transom becomes very dangerous. Even
large sport fishermen with large, open cockpit scuppers or non-sealing
transom doors have gotten into trouble under such conditions. If you are
the owner of such a boat, you had better think carefully how you use it."

Well, I mean, it's scary if that's what you've got!


Many modern sailboats have an open transom. It's quite safe. In fact,
in some regards, it's considerably safer. Heck, my antique wooden
Flying Dutchman didn't have a closed transom.



Herring knows less about boats than I do about shortwave radio, and I
know absolutely nothing about shortwave radio.

He's apparently never been on or even seen a transomless racing sail
boat. That's probably because there are cobwebs under the boat trailer
in his driveway, and he's never out on the water.

You still have the FD? My memory of the class boat was that it had a
closed transom, with big flaps that opened to let the water out. Or
maybe they were just big square holes in the transom. Been a long time.

The flying dutchman is long gone. Bought it in extremely poor
condition for (I think) $150 when I was a teenager. It's racing days
were obviously over, and it was probably ready for the landfill when I
got it. The FD had so many lines it looked like a spaghetti factory.
In this case, due to my limited budget, most of those lines were of
the clothesline variety.

The transom, I had to replace with a plywood facimile cut out with a
jig saw. Two large holes with about an inch or two of material
surrounding them, and a wider section down the center for the
gudgeons.

On one of the earliest sails, I thought it would be cool to try out
the trapeze. Probably should have inspected it first. We were gong
along at a pretty good clip when there was a loud TWANG, and I was in
the water. Took my buddy (who narrowly avoided a capsize when I went
over) a bit of an effort to get the boat turned around to come back
and get me.