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On Aug 19, 3:42 pm, hk wrote:
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:00:58 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:58:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
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OK, lets try for some real info this time and no insults. Do so-
called offshore boats really have good scuppers? Can anybody provide
a link to a pic of such?
Next, areas below the deck, are they sealed on offshore boats or
accessible via a hatch? How much do said hatches leak? (my sealed
compartments have 6" screw in type access ports).
By that controversial Florida fellow:
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/sinking.htm
Eisboch
It's for sure this part is kind of scary:
"Open Transoms or boats with no transoms have been appearing on the market
with more frequency lately, and many of these are just accidents waiting to
happen. A boat without a transom cannot reasonably be called seaworthy
unless the internal compartments of the hull are made absolutely
watertight. This is almost never the case because the builders never put
absolutely watertight hatches in the decks.
They make a mistake by ignoring the probability that at some point in time
the vessel will encounter circumstances where waves are crashing over the
nonexistent transom, flooding the deck, and thereby endangering the vessel
and its passengers. Builders of such boats don't have the foresight (which
they should have) to consider what would happen if such a boat lost power
while navigating a dangerous inlet, or breaks down while at sea. Under
these circumstances, the lack of a transom becomes very dangerous. Even
large sport fishermen with large, open cockpit scuppers or non-sealing
transom doors have gotten into trouble under such conditions. If you are
the owner of such a boat, you had better think carefully how you use it."
Well, I mean, it's scary if that's what you've got!
Many modern sailboats have an open transom. It's quite safe. In fact,
in some regards, it's considerably safer. Heck, my antique wooden
Flying Dutchman didn't have a closed transom.
Herring knows less about boats than I do about shortwave radio, and I
know absolutely nothing about shortwave radio.

He's apparently never been on or even seen a transomless racing sail
boat. That's probably because there are cobwebs under the boat trailer
in his driveway, and he's never out on the water.

You still have the FD? My memory of the class boat was that it had a
closed transom, with big flaps that opened to let the water out. Or
maybe they were just big square holes in the transom. Been a long time.

OK, open transom or large scuppers? Which should it be? I wonder how
many "offshore boats" really are self righting? The available info on
keeping the sea out vs getting green water out seems contradictory so
much that it seems that "offshore" means what ever the manufacturer
says it means. Kevin Beddoe has a place ont he FishyFish site where
he discusses taking a boat "Madelisa", almost identical to mine 85
miles off Cabo in Baja. Are conditions off Cabo better or worse than
early summer in S. FL? From the pics, "Madelisa" has a deck but no
scuppers at all. He then describes his deck as not even being sealed.



Oi! Oi! Oi!

Here's a suggestion. Tow that boat over to the Atlantic side for a few
days, and run it in the water. You could launch from Haulover Inlet, and
run a nice choppy but not too bad inlet and be right out in the ocean.
Head offshore a few miles on a near flat calm day and head out of the
inlet on a really choppy snotty day. See how your boat performs.

There's nothing you can read here or anywhere else that is going to give
you the knowledge base you need to head offshore. Honest Indian.

Just remember the Boy Scout motto.