Cliff wrote in
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On 25 Dec 2008 22:07:21 GMT, D Murphy wrote:
Cliff wrote in
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:33:43 -0600, Jeff Mc
wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:17:39 -0800, rigger wrote:
On Dec 25, 9:50 am, Cliff wrote:
http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/119516
"One day after granting a pardon to Brooklyn developer Isaac
Toussie,
President Bush revoked it, a step experts say is certainly rare
and possibly unprecedented."
[
Toussie, one of 19 people Bush pardoned on Tuesday, pleaded
guilty in 2003 to
defrauding the federal government and Suffolk County in mortgage
and price-inflation schemes. He and his father Robert, among the
largest landowners on Long Island, are accused of selling shoddy
homes at inflated prices, largely to minorities, in an ongoing
class-action lawsuit involving 400 families.
Yesterday, the White House said the President is revoking
Toussie's pardon, at least in part because of news reports
revealing that his father gave over $28,000 to the Republican
National Committee just months before the pardon petition.
The White House counsel recommended the pardon to the President.
]
Will they be giving back the $28,000?
And HOW can they UNDO a pardon?
According to Bush/Cheney the Executive has absolute power.
If he pardon's SureShot, himself, Rumsfeld & crew can Obama
now undo it?
Absolute power would indeed grant that power to Obama.
--
Cliff
Maybe their check bounced???
Ha!
dennis
in nca
I think Cliff hit the nail on the head. Bush, the stupid ****,
gave up his absolute right to a self-imposed pardon with this
cover up. Problem is that Osama won't use the power.
He probably just hadn't signed or filed the paperwork yet.
How could he revoke what did not exist?
Pardons can be revoked.
A pardon is not parole or probation.
Duh. Pardons and commutations of sentences can still be revoked.
While a
decision to pardon is reversible, an actual pardon is not.
Did anyone bother to tell him & the repubs?
Seems they know more about it than ou do.
It's good that they are wise lawyers then, eh?
And your playing one on usenet carries more weight?
Otherwise it
would merely be a parole.
With neocons who knows?
The Rule of Law does not apply to them they say
(nor any laws at all I gather).
The laws that exist only in your head?
So a pardon is not a pardon?
It is.
Is it a banquer?
You two should just get it on and get it over with.
Or are you thinking of a criminal pardon?
We are duscussing presidential pardons. Focus.
In which case shrubco is the guilty party for taking the
$28,000 and can be tried for it but the pardon is still valid
Nope. He didn't take $28,000.00, so there's the first problem with your
"case."
I think.
And therein lies your problem.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ords-suggest-p
at h-to-a-pardon/
"I hereby grant full and unconditional pardons to the following
named
persons."
Did he unpardon all of them? All or none in any case I'd think.
Nope.
Then he could not have revoked the document as it was for
all those named in it so if he had tried all pardons would
have been "revoked".
Huh? You seem confused. A pardon isn't some big fill-in-the-blanks form
where you list everyone you want to pardon.
Keep reaching.
http://www.concurringopinions.com/ar...the_preside.ht
ml
It could be revoked by the next president anyway. You need to let it go.
He's never going to be arrested, charged, or tried for anything.
http://www.bloggernews.net/119165
"Mayday Over Ohio: Another Rove Enemy Goes Down in Flames"
You sure love your conspiracy k00ks, Sancho.
--
Dan
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