"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:25:28 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:44:38 -0800, jps wrote:



The bill sucks but don't blame Obama for the **** we're in or the
debt
our progeny will shoulder.

I suspect that bill will be radically changed in the Senate.
Too much resistance to the debt incurred.
And too many pieces that aren't "stimulative."
We got burned when the pols rushed TARP, and public resistance
against hurriedly tossing money is pretty high.
What I'm enjoying seeing is tentative jabs at "free trade."
We need more PERMANENT jobs.
Without addressing that need none of this stuff is good long term.
Cheap consumer goods and crass materialism is what got us here.
Wall Street bull**** telling everybody they could be rich without
labor.

IMO, this mentality that is killing us now started in the dot com
balloon. (that burst)
I remember companies going public within a year of incorporation and
having stock being valued and sold for astronomical prices although
they had never turned a profit. In fact, some had never produced a
product or service. It was the beginning of the get-rich-quick using
other peoples' money thought process and everyone was in on the game.

Greed is as American as apple pie.

I suppose that's true, but I don't confuse greed with genuine, honest
attempts to better one's self financially or otherwise. Quite often the
ambition someone has opens opportunities for others as well.

Dreams of and setting goals for success is also as American as apple
pie. Part of success includes financial reward for many, and there's
nothing wrong with that, IMO. To gain financially at the expense of
others is wrong, and that's what we are witnessing.

We're on the same track. Nothing wrong with dreams, setting goals and
achieving them, and attaining some financial reward. That's not greed.

Some financial reward?

What's "some" financial reward? Who defines what "some" is and what
"greed" is?



In my mind, you are entitled to whatever amount of financial reward that you
can honestly earn.

What you do with your financial reward is a different subject.

Eisboch