Curly Surmudgeon wrote in
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:57:48 +0000, D Murphy wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote in
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:39:40 +0000, D Murphy wrote:
Curly Surmudgeon wrote in
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:26:48 +0000, D Murphy wrote:
Cliff wrote in
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Send some of those Cuba-trained doctors to the US.
Last I heard they were being treated like slaves in Venezuela and
they were begging for asylum in the US.
Cites?
My conversations with Cuban doctors in Argentina, Bolivia,
Paraguay, Venezuela and Peru said no such thing. All were well
educated, kind and anxious to help society.
http://news.google.com/archivesearch...GLG,GGLG:2006-
16,GGLG:en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=cuban+doctors+venezuela+asylum
Pick a source you trust.
It was all over the news a while back.
Yeah, in the year 2000...
There have been hundreds of defections.
And it was two doctors.
Nor did the _single_ doctor in the 2007 article mention slavery.
Where do you get your prejudice, World Nut Daily?
Where is the slavery?
I never claimed slavery. I made an analogy relating their poor working
conditions to slavery.
My statement stands as first-hand knowledge. The Cuban doctors I've
spoken to were proud of their profession and country while helping
others. It's amazing just how many and numerous they are. In many
small villages and towns there seems to be a Cuban doctor. You can't
help but run across them. I've seen them from the Northern jungles of
Paraguay on the Brazilian border to the remote Bolivian and Peruvian
Andes.
Many, actually most I've encountered, are women.
OK. All I said is that some want to defect. Many have been murdered, beaten
and robbed. They are poorly compensated and Venezuelan doctors claim that
they are poorly trained. Service can be compulsory:
Cuba - section 220 of the Labour Code: a sentence of imprisonment of from
six months to two years may be imposed on a person who, by breach of the
duties placed on him by his office, employment, occupation or profession in
a state economic unit (particularly of his duties relating to the
observance of the standards or standard-setting instructions and other
rules and instructions concerning technological discipline) causes harm or
substantial prejudice to the production output or to the rendering of
services by the unit or to its equipment, machines, machinery, tools or
other technical devices. The Committee has noted the information provided
by the Government in its report (including the documents annexed to the
report), to the effect that any sentences of correctional labour imposed
for violations of this provision are subject to the person sentenced being
willing to perform such labour.
http://www.ilo.org/public/english/st...6/pdf/rep-iii-
1b.pdf
From your google search string:
Cuban health professionals who defected apply for fast-track entry
to... Free with registration - Knight Ridder Washington Bureau -
AccessMyLibrary.com - Mar 9, 2007
Cuba has an estimated 40000 doctors, dentists, nurses and other
medical personnel working in 69 countries, including some 15000 in
Venezuela. ...
Most go on to say that almost 100 medical personal, not doctors,
have applied for asylum in the U.S. under a program set up to lure
professionals from Cuba.
Whoop-de-****ing-do, 0.25% *medical* *personal,* not
"doctors,"accepted bribes amounting to hundreds of thousands of
dollars. So, again, where did you "hear[d] they were being treated
like slaves in Venezuela and begging for asylum"?
I suppose if you think Cuban's are free and allowed to raom around
Venezuela unmonitored then what you just wrote makes sense.
What makes you think otherwise? Any first hand knowledge or just
unsubstantiated opinion?
I've read first hand accounts from defectors.
The truth is that they are not. They can only apply for asylum if
they can escape across the border to Columbia.
Cite?
Cuban health professionals are being traded for oil and some that
have escaped report to being forced to campaign and promote Chavez.
Cite? Your own reports shows that only 0.25% accepted U.S. bribes to
relocate.
They aren't allowed to talk to the press.
Where do you get this stuff?
Just open your eyes.
http://www.cubastudygroup.org/index.cfm?
FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=38 87&Month=8&Year=2008
How many are in Venezuela against their will? How many is too many?
5%? 50%?
How many claims are you going to fabricate?
Where is the fabrication? I asked a question.
Or doesn't their will matter just as long as they are treating poor
people for "free"?
Let's see, Cubans working among the poor and indigenous without charge
are bad, much worse, than U.S. doctors denying health care to the poor
and elderly. What planet do you live on?
Projection.
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Dan
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