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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:54:34 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:27:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack

wrote:

Ah... it sounded like you were complaining about the high cost of
insurance. But now I understand that you're both "retired",
with your
wife choosing to work at a basic job where the insurance cost
25% of
her pay. Nothing wrong with that.

No, my wife is 17 years younger than me and will be working for
a long
time yet, insurance or not. And she's the highest paid in her
unit
except for the manager. The rest there can't afford the
insurance, so
they go to the e-room for everything. That's the problem. The
high
cost of health care/insurance. There ain't no free lunch
except the
one those paying for health insurance are buying for the others.
Whether I complain about it or not, you may have noticed that
others
are.

I agree that the people who choose to not insure, then use the
emergency room for free health care is a problem. However, if
you're
rooting for national health care so your wife can quit work
and I'll
have to pick up your health care tab... well, I have a problem
with
that.

Tell me your problem with paying my SS and I'll shed a couple
tears.
My problem isn't with paying, it's with a system that only
*some* pay
into, and a system that locks people into jobs because health
insurance isn't universally available and portable. Stifles
and puts
artificial constraints into movement in the job market, and gives
foreigners a competitive edge in trade.

--Vic
Part of our high costs are the E room. I had a toothache while
in Sorrento, Italy. A Saturday and no dentist working. I was
told to go to the local hospital and go to the "Pronto Soccorso"
entrance. Happens to be free to everyone, foreign, locals etc.
Was like a walk in doctors office. There were people there with
hurting ankle, etc. Had a Doctor, nurse & aid and clerk. No
big tests, no major equipment. If you needed more, they sent
you to the hospital, where I would have had to pay. Much cheaper
setup than our E rooms and Urgent Care clinics.
I guess if you could get it by the Doctopr/Nurse union the
government
could cut a lot of this off at the pass by opening store front
"Quack
in the box" operations in the places where poor people live. They
could staff it with military or ex-military medical people when they
stop the war. My niece was a navy Corpsman for 12 years. If she can
treat the aches and pains of a ship full of sailors or save a
Marine
with a sucking chest wound, there is not much in the ghetto she
can't
handle. Unfortunately they want her to go to another 4 year course
before she can give someone, stateside, a shot.

And I thought we were over "separate and unequal."

I wouldn't see a non-physician or nurse practitioner for a medical
issue. Why should a poor person? The nurses who draw my blood for
tests or give me a flu shot, et cetera, are college graduate
nurses who have passed board exams, are licensed, and required to
continue their educations during their professional life.

You may know about Maryland gun laws, but you know little about the
medical world. Rare is it an RN taking blood for your tests. They
are normally a phlebotomist. 4-8 months course.

Sorry, the nurses at my doctor's office are RN's or Nurse
Practitioners. Says so on their badges, on the office directories,
on the diplomas hanging on the walls of the various offices.

Ok. The last thing my sister, the Nurse Practicioner, does is draw
blood when there are RNs of any flavor or phlebotomists around. The
scutt work rolls down hill quickly.

So?

You are lying again! Or, they just don't want you fainting in the Quest
Diagnostics Lab and having an ambulance come and take you to the
hospital and then have to deal you being admitted for 24 hours worth of
observation.

Take your pick.

What are you crazy boys raving about?