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Default Americans working much harder - for less pay


"NotNow" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
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D wrote:
jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:03:52 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:10:59 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
Feel like you're working a lot harder these days, putting in
longer
hours for the same pay - or even less? The latest round of
government
data on worker productivity indicates that you probably are.

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the American work force
produced, at an annual rate, 6.4 percent more of the goods they
made
and services they provided in the second quarter of this year
compared
to a year ago. At the same time, "unit labor costs" - the amount
employers paid for all that extra work - fell by 5.8 percent. The
jump
in productivity was higher than expected; the cut in labor costs
more
than double expectations.

That is, despite the deep job cuts of the past year, workers who
remain on the payroll are filling in and making up the work that
had
been done by their departed colleagues. In some cases, that extra
work
came with a smaller paycheck.


Full story here...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32374533...n_the_economy/
On todays production lines the volume can be increased without a
corresponding increase in the effort of the individual. So a 6.4%
increase in production does not mean that the employee is being
overworked as implied.
Don't know if you're heard, we don't have production lines here
anymore. We're in the service business and military arms. The
productivity gains come from less workers doing more, working longer
hours for pay that doesn't keep up with the rising cost of living.
No production, so we could not raise productivity. You kept all your
deadwood.
You don't have to produce on a line to be productive.

We write software, it doesn't benefit from a faster production line.
We are doing more with less people. When times are lean, that's the
way it works.

Did you ever work for an entreprenurial company or only behemoths?
How well are those German screwdrivers helping you write software?
That's what I was thinking, how do you write software with a
screwdriver! He's lying like Harry of course, you'll see no evidence of
his work.


I will support jps here. I wrote software for embedded systems. Most
for years was in PROM's. So you had to take the screw driver and open up
the case to pop out the old PROM and install the new one.

And it'd take high dollar German made screwdrivers to pry open the case?!


No, we used the pocket knife at times. Only real problem we had is the guy
who originally designed the case had designed military tanks. So all screws
were stainless. Case was sheet aluminum. Could never get the Engineering
change board to sign off on changing the stainless to plated Keps. Then the
assembly people could have used the magnetic power screwdrivers with even
better production results.