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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:15:32 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be Nixon, since
LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of any kind.

Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.


Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to be in
either
place.

I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the difference, nor
can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in mountain
ambushes.

This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?


This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at least I
hope so.


What's wrong with changing your mind about something? If you can't do
that, you shouldn't be in charge.

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There is no problem with his changing his mind. Unless it is because a
CNN
poll says he should change his stance. We did not hire him to be an
arbitrator of popularity. He needs to learn the "Buck Stops Here" part
of
the Presidency.


There are those elected who think the interaction with their
constituency stops there. Those that govern *well* keep listening.

Bush thought he knew best and kept on the straight and narrow, no
matter what data came in subsequentely.

Obama has the presence of mind to keep listening and adjusting the
solution to best fit the problem and future.


Nope, Obama is like Clinton. Go the way the wind blows. Bad in a CEO.
You can listen to the constituents, but you better make decisions on the
facts. Clinton had the charisma and votes to be a great POTUS. He failed
the test.


Looks to me like he's the opposite of Clinton. Please show me where his
decisions have been based on poll numbers or is there something else?

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