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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:07:50 -0700, Canuck57

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Tonight at 11:15 pm EST, by a 220 to 215 vote, the House
passed
their
version of Health Care Reform.

Among the most meaningful pieces of legislation in
history
making
it
through one body of congress is a big deal. There's lots
of
work
left
but I'm damned happy a major bridge has been crossed.

All you folks who hate your fellow Americans and don't
think
it's
worth the investment have my sympathy.


One lone Republican voted for it. 39 Democrats opposed.
That
****es me
off.
Well, it's on to the Senate. I'm sure they'll do something
by
2015.

Lets hope they bog it down and 2010 becomes an election
issue on
the
very point. A decision this big needs direct voting on the
issue.
Hell, if the majority wants government to nationalize health
care,
so be
it. But I suspect when people take the time to read, this
is a
hidden
tax grab. Get the cash flow to the government and then turn
down
survice levels while they skim the moneys.

The polls are very clear in that Americans want health care
reform.

Haley Barbour was on Meet the Press today insisting the
majority
of
Americans don't want health care reform. I don't know of a
single
poll, apart from heavy Republican districts, who are against
health
care reform.

Lying straight faced is Republican strong suit.

Yes, the people are for health care reform. Or really cheaper
healthcare.
But do they want the government telling them what services
they can
have?

Oy. Doesn't that happen right now? What makes you think the
government is going to deny any more procedures or care than
the
profit making health care business?

The government has never run anything cheaper than private
industry.

Oh boy, here we go. Isn't most medicare administration done
by
private industry?

And
ramming through a "healthcare reform" bill in a short time in
the
back
room
and then voting on it less than 3 days later, leads to those
****ED
UP
laws
that the unintended consequences are worse than the cure. The
Feds
should
be working on creating sustainable jobs, cutting spending and
curing
a
depression first.

Don't you think keeping people solvent who might otherwise be
swamped
by medical costs is a good investment?

Perhaps it's not the first consideration in getting us back on
our
economic feet but it's up there.

Did President Bush focus only on invading Iraq or was he also
working
on making the Chinese-funded tax cuts for US rich permanent?

jps, you seem to be a one trick pony. Everything is fubar
because
Bush
invaded the Middle East. Ain't so, and until you can come up
with
resonable debates: kiss my ass!

I find it difficult to find one thing that Bush did with actual
compassionate results. Perhaps the Africa AIDS program, but even
that
was messed up.

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Nom=de=Plume


I stated that jps believes all the crap is Bush's fault.
Everything
was
perfect before Bush 2. Except We are still spending money in
Bosnia,
look what a fine place Clinton left Somalia. Bush was not the
one who
signed the bill to let banks be brokerage houses. Something that
had
worked well after the 1929 crash. I hope you did better reading
on
your
patent searches.

Somalia? That's pretty insignificant in the scheme of things.
Bosnia...
we
did a lot of good there. Do you deny that?

It's not all Bush's fault. He just was a significant contributor
...
more
than anyone else.

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Bush just added to the Clusterf*&k. Somalia, killed a lot of our
men for
nothing. Bosnia was not our problem, we had no right to interfere.
And
Albanians and Serbs have been killing each other for 600 years. Let
Europe
take care of the problem if needed, was their playground. How many
billions
we waste there? And we are still there.

Please tell us how many billions we've wasted in Bosnia.

Then tell us how many billions it takes to make a trillion x 3. Can
you say several orders of magnitude?

A billion hear a billion there, and you are talking real money. How
many
billions has Obama overspent in the last 10 months?

What's wrong, don't want to answer the question?

Facts in context reveal some nasty truths don't they?

Bosnia is a drop in the very large bucket that Bush opened up to pay
for Iraq.

If it does not matter how much Bosnia costs. then you have to ignore
the financials of Iraq. Both are wars, and both cost lots of money,
and both are places we most likely should have not gone. I realize you
are blind in your partisanship.

The former was well explained and justified. The latter was based on
fabrication. Big diff.

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The former was not really justified. Better PR on it, but was not a
place we should have gone.

In your opinion. In the opinion of the rest of the world however....

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Nom=de=Plume


Your opinion. Cites?