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Default I will pay more in federal income taxes this year than ExxonMobil

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On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:04:19 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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When you have families in the $40-50k a year range paying zero taxes
and 2 people making $70-80k paying 10% tax, I don't think anybody is
soaking the little guy.


You're really just playing with numbers. How many in that family? What
deductions are they taking? Certainly not just the standard deduction. Two
people who make the amount specified must also have something else going
on.
Not sure where you're getting your numbers on the tax bracket, but I
believe
this is accurate:
http://www.bargaineering.com/article...projected.html


A "family" will usually have a mortgage, 3 dependents, perhaps day
care credits and other deductions.


As I said, there are deductions that they can use. If you're uncomfortable
with that, you're going to have some problems getting elected.



If you really want to see some taxes, get that "free" public health
care thing going. It ads about 25% to the average Canadian's tax bill,
far more than that for a Frenchman


Except that they get a great benefit. They live longer and have far better
outcomes.


There are a lot of other factors in those numbers. If you just look at
obesity you can explain a lot of our health problems.


Yes, and Michele Obama is making a public case to do something. Snaps to
her.


In addition, without starting to reform the healthcare/ins.
system, the costs will go way beyond what you're quoting. That path will
lead to a true economic meltdown. What happened legislatively wasn't
enough,
far from it, but it's going in the right direction. As someone said,
you're
either on the bus or off the bus. I'd prefer to be on the bus.


We have not addressed costs, only the number of people who get into
the system. When you restrict how much money a doctor can make from a
medicare/medicaid patient, you are just going to restrict the places
they can go. Doctors will just stop taking those patients.


Well, perhaps, and I'm not in favor of price controls on doctors. But, they
need to pay their fair share also. As I said, I'd love to hear some viable
solution vs. and endless recitation of the bad news.

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