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Peter (Yes, that one)

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:29:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:42:17 -0500, "Peter (Yes, that one)"
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When you have families in the $40-50k a year range paying zero taxes
and 2 people making $70-80k paying 10% tax, I don't think anybody is
soaking the little guy.
Like I asked BP, what is this middle class who is getting soaked?
With the new tax changes people making over $250k are probably going
to be paying close to 90% of the taxes.
If you really want to see some taxes, get that "free" public health
care thing going. It ads about 25% to the average Canadian's tax bill,
far more than that for a Frenchman

Please. You are speaking as if federal income tax is the only tax.
It is not. There is FICA, Medicare, and health plans coming directly
out of paychecks. And often state taxes.

Again, I bet Don would swap tax bills with you.

But he may not want to swap his free health care for our form.

Is someone under the impression that we're getting free health care?

I'm still paying and will pay exhorbitant rates. I'm happy that some
who can't afford what I can will have access.

Anyone who's getting taxed will bitch but it depends on what you're
getting for your tax dollar that counts.

We buy bullets and bombs.

Canadians buy health care and a decent education.

All the political talk aside (and a comparison of federal spending will
back you up) he never addressed discretionary spending after all taxes
and common survival expenses as a wealth "class" determinate.
I suppose it is true that in Canada wealth is distributed more evenly,
but I never mentioned Canada.
Guessing from context, that would be the province of the Mr. Don
mentioned.
Mr Gfretwell does not seem to view affordable health care for all as
achievable, and perhaps not even desirable, though every other modern
industrial country has been doing it for many years and at less cost
than the U.S.
I find it disappointing that so many Americans have a "can't do"
attitude towards health care. In my professional life I would never
think for a moment that I could not find a shoe that fit my customer in
fit and style.
That would be considered unprofessional and any shoe clerk who thought
in that manner would be considered a "loser" and be promptly dismissed.
Guess it comes down to can do, can't do mentalities.
I certainly know which attitude is preferred where ever I have worked.
What if General Doolittle had doubts about his mission, and instead of
weighing fuel and distance, just said "Nah, can't do that?"
Or General Eisenhower had told General Marshall, "Say, let's cancel this
D-Day thing. Looks hard to do."
Well, I must say that I shudder at the thought.
Naysayers always find a reason to halt progress, but there are men of
courage who advance the good works of nations and societies.
I am not a cynic, but a realist guided by ideals.
Perhaps I could be called a forward-looking pragmatist.
Just don't call me Ray.