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On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:59:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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GTMO is still operating.

And, Republicans have blocked moves to allocate funding to getting it
closed, and they're blocking moves to transfer the detainees to federal
facilities here.


Obama admits now Gitmo is not going anywhere. It still serves a
purpose for his administration.


"The president had insisted he would close the detention center by the end
of his first year in office, only to be met with a Republican backlash and
concern among many Democrats. An alternate site was located in upstate
Illinois, and the White House insists that it remains committed to Gitmo's
closure. But little has been done to compel Congress to appropriate funds
for the move, according to Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) chair of the Senate
Committee on Armed Services."

A trillion dollar economic stimulus program has failed.


Untrue. It staved off a depression.


We will see won't we. Hoover "staved off the depression" for 3 years
too.


Huh? Hoover did basically nothing except cut spending.

How bad it might have been is just conjecture and the real question is
whether we would have come out healthier if we had taken a little more
pain.


There is absolutely no data to suggest that would happen. It would have
gotten much, much worse.

We are still in Iraq.


And, the troop numbers are dropping.

We are escalating in Afghanistan.


As per what Obama said would happen.


Yes, but they'll be drawn down in the next year or so, as per policy and
agreement with the Afg. admin.

I really haven't noticed any "change". Have you?


Yes, but I can't help what other people refuse to see.


Lets talk in 2012. That is when the poll that counts will be taken.
If Obama has not fulfilled any of these promises, he will go the way
of Carter, Bush 1 and Johnson because he will have lost his base.
The left is as mad at him about the war, human rights and the failure
to get a real health care plan (public option) as the right is about
him being from Kenya. ;-) ducking for cover


Any of these promises? It's all about the economy at this point. No one
really gives a hoot about anything other than jobs and perhaps a little bit
about the wars.

You forgot to mention that he's illegitimate and hated his mother.