On 24/09/2011 2:58 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/24/2011 4:02 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/09/2011 6:24 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 00:51:47 -0600, wrote:

On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote:

When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue
that it was only a fetus?

So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder
with
the bible in hand?

Natural miscarriages occur. My daughter went through one a few months
back.

Agreed, they do and that is why I brought it up. Lots of reasons a fetus
gets aborted that are quit natural.

Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+
weeks or so.

Saying a fetus isn't a baby, with no regard to viability, is also
annoying.

Good way to put it. When the fetus becomes viable as a self sustaining
human being, it is then a human. But not before.
Self sustaining, like when fetus gets a job and pays his own way, he
finally becomes human. Interesting theory.

Like most fear driven religious basket cases, you got it wrong and
twisted it.

But some truth to it. Why should not a parent have exclusive control
over children until they they can work and fend on their own provided
their intent is good? Can't spank a kid for doing something wrong
without a court case because some liberal has their knickers in a twist.
Far too many in society meddle in other peoples business without
proper cause.

But then you do get the opposite extreme where children are being
abused. Yet they be good church goers and it be ignored by the people,
politicians, judges and police. See the LDS get away with pedophilia
and polygamy. Jeffs' cult-sanctioned pedophilia, how long was that
going on unchecked?

Fact is most of our society is irrational, hypocritical and unjust.
Only the illusion of democracy and freedom exists. We worship propaganda
and bull**** and most of our species has poor rationality and logic
capabilities.
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First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging.
So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt?