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X ` Man[_3_]

On 12/14/11 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:28:13 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 12/13/11 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:23:35 -0500, Black
wrote:

22's are far more lethal. It has been proven. They enter one place,
bounce around, and exit another. Very Lethal

.223 perhaps but not really true of the .22rf.

They can cause fatal damage but it is not really immediate and in a
serious social situation (or a bear attack) you want immediate
results

On the farm, we would use a .22 to stun a steer unconscious by shooting him in the forehead. Then,
when he was down, slit it's throat. Pretty humane way of killing the critter.

Israeli hit men seem to like .22s but they are doing the same thing as
you. putting the gun up against the victim's head and shooting.
On the other hand a shot to the center of mass is a pretty iffy thing.
Reagan had a .22 round in a lung and barely even knew he was shot.

"Civilian" gun fights/attacks usually take place at 15 feet or less. I
asked about this when I first started shooting at the local cop firing
range and noticed most of the cops firing at targets seven to 20 feet
away. Massad F. Ayoob often talks or writes about short-range firing
challenges. At close range, even a .22LR pistol will be deadly in the
hands of a good shooter. The advantages of the light-caliber handgun in
"combat" are low recoil, little muzzle flip, and fast cyclic rate.

My custom CZ is the most accurate pistol I've ever shot, and it also has
the fastest cycling rate. I've shot .40's, 9's, 10's, 45's, 22's, 25's,
380's, et cetera. If I were in a civilian combat situation, my sidearm
of choice would be my customized CZ.

In your CCW class, did they do the "man with a knife" drill?
At 15 feet the guy with the knife usually stabs the guy with the gun
before he gets off a shot.
There is a huge difference between what you do at the range and what
happens when you are in a real fight. If the person you shoot,
actually lives 10 seconds after he is shot, there may be two bodies on
the ground when the cops get there. That is why .40s and .45s have it
all over a 38 or 9mm.

Bear in mind your assailant may be stoned on some drug that prevents
him from responding in the way you expect. If this is a wild animal,
they may just get more aggressive when they are shot and you need a
hit that actually knocks them down.

I don't typically walk around Southern Maryland "heeled," as they used
to say, even though I have permits to do so. If there's an intruder who
breaks in here at night, he's a "home invader," and is going to be shot
as soon as I see him, either with a pistol or with a shotgun.

The 9mm, by the way, is not my only handgun. I do have a few larger
caliber pistols, but I shoot 9mm the most.

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