On 7/1/2012 6:00 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/1/2012 5:43 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 12:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 1, 11:35 am, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 10:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:










In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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In article ,
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can
this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the
queue.

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That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat
conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few
years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a
local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
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And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years
ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is
getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or
arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set.
So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and
there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a
trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar.
Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the
trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare
patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As
to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of
doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the
issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip
replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

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No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of
rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not
pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in
Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors
office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that)
where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and
you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to
pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will
try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets,
then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San
Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of
money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in
Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance
and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about
spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.

Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So, what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I am the
kettle...

What lies do I spread about you and your family?
Do you, or did you, have numerous judgements against you for
nonpayment of various outstanding bills...such as hospital, municipal
taxes, credit cards etc
Have you had a real job to help support your family in the past few
years?
I simply report the truth as I understand it.


The truth as you and harry want to see it.... To use to intimidate and
bully me and my family. You have no idea how we got to that point, you
have no idea of the bills others in our second family incurred, or how
hard we are working every day to get it right AND raise our kids... But
you wouldn't care, you just need to make yourself feel better so you
take a couple out of context, uninformed facts and make up the rest...
You are a scum bag just like harry and the plum, really, get a life, and
while you are at it, get it right...



This is all he's got outside of the Saturday night cage fights with his
#2 kid on the card.


He isn't even man enough to take responsibility for it now...