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Default Time to ban handguns?

On 7/20/12 2:53 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:59:33 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/20/12 12:48 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:34:52 -0400, X ` Man


Not tough enough...it's not difficult to get a permit for a fully auto
firearm.



Huh? I suppose you have never done it.

I KNOW you haven't lately since Md is not signing the BATF form 4s
anymore in virtually any county.



I have no need or interest in owning a fully auto firearm, but I have a
buddy out in Redneck, Virginia (but he's not a redneck) who got one made
in the Vietnam War era a couple of years ago. I asked him about the
paperwork and he said it was nothing special, and the federal charge was
something like $100 (to the best of my memory). Therefore, I concluded
it was *not difficult* to get a permit for a fully automatic firearm.



Your friend is in Virginia not Maryland and he was minimizing the
effort everyone went through although the dealer does most of the real
work.
First you buy the gun, then you apply. The dealer holds the gun.
It is a $200 non refundable application fee and it involves being
finger printed, passport pictures and a very extensive background
check by the BATF, the FBI, (probably Homeland these days) and when
they are happy your state and local police get a swing at it. In the
end, your chief local law enforcement officer gets to veto the whole
thing by not signing the form.
The process takes about 90 days and if anyone along the way has a
problem with it, you don't get the gun and you don't get your $200
back. The dealer may also keep some of the money you gave him. The
typical handling fee is around 20-30% of the price of the gun. That is
usually not refundable either.



You're the one who brought up Maryland, not me. I never indicated I was
interested in getting a fully auto firearm, I was simply relaying what
my friend with one said, that it wasn't difficult, and that he lives in
Virginia.

Your description of the process confirms what I said. You fill out a
form, pay a fee, supply fingerprints and a photo (which you usually have
to do to get a carry permit), and wait for it to be approved. Why is
that difficult?

Maybe down there in Crackerville, Florida, you're just not familiar with
the process of filling out forms and waiting for permits.