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Default For the morons that refuse to understand smart grid technology

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:10:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:

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On Monday, September 17, 2012 11:45:46 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

Smart meters isn't a smart grid system.


It is a key element of the smart grid vision.

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Technologies_Metering/

"Smart meter initiatives around the country in recent years have proven the
concept. They are cost-effective and maximize energy efficiency, leading
many governments to mandate advanced metering. Today a small fraction of
U.S. meters are smart, but the segment is expected to grow between 15
percent and 20 percent annually."


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We have smart meters here. Most people do not like them as their power
bills went up 20-30%. I think the reason the utilities love them is it
calculates power usage better. With all the cell phone and computer low


Or it was simply programmed to overbill.. It's not a matter of calibration, when the
manufacturers intentionally allow features to be activated that will overbill the
customers.

voltage transformers in a house the power factor is wrong for great billing.
The power passes without being registered as a big percentage is mostly
inductive and the power factor designed in to a standard meter will not


The DC rectifiers on modern power supplies make them act more like capacitive loads..

record a lot of the energy used.


I doubt your claims..

http://www.popsci.com/diy/gallery/20...ter-dissection


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Working_of...e_energy_meter
"One coil is connected in such a way that it produces a magnetic flux in proportion to the
voltage and the other produces a magnetic flux in proportion to the current. The field of
the voltage coil is delayed by 90 degrees using a lag coil. [1]This produces eddy currents
in the disc and the effect is such that a force is exerted on the disc in proportion to
the product of the instantaneous current and voltage. A permanent magnet exerts an
opposing force proportional to the speed of rotation of the disc - this acts as a brake
which causes the disc to stop spinning when power stops being drawn rather than allowing
it to spin faster and faster. This causes the disc to rotate at a speed proportional to
the power being used."

I would bet those old analogue meters over the long haul are far more robust and accurate
than these newer meters.. (Newer electronic meters have a projected lifespan of less than
10 years. Guess who's going to get the short end of the stick when they fail??)