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On Thu, 2 May 2013 13:26:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Thu, 2 May 2013 09:02:33 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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And while the dimmable doesn't last as long, 4/5ths of the
life of a standard CFL isn't bad, and better than an incandescent by a
LONG shot. You've been hoodwinked by FOX, like the Mercury in them,
which is 100 to 600 times less than a fever thermometer.

You haven't been able to buy a mercury thermometer for decades and one
would last a lifetime. CFLs are consummables. Virtually every one of
them will end up in the environment somewhere.

No, they don't. And yes you can.

Who sells a mercury fever thermometer?

Notice, if you will, 13 states have them outlawed. That leaves 37 states
that they still can be sold. That plus, do you think that everyone in
those 13 states just got rid of the ones they had?

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I ask again, where do you buy them?

Just about anywhere.

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Need more?



And what about other thermometers that are in use?

I haven't even seen a mercury thermometer in 30 years. These days
people use electronic ones.
Once they are gone, they are gone.
We are making about a billion new CFLs.
122 CFLs have as much mercury as one thermometer (using the cite you
gave and .6g per thermometer vs .005g in a CFL.).

Thermometers are just another of your straw men.

See above. Strawman, eh?


I know you may find some lab thermometers with mercury in them but
they are even being phased out.



And you are comparing a GOOD dimmable with the low priced, low
performing, crappy lighting CFL's designed to be put in an ad to get you
into the store.


They are pretty much all made in China. \
If I do go for the Sylvania CFL the reliability numbers get worse.
Their regular CFL is 12000 hours vs 8000 (66% )for the dimmable and it
is still 13w vs 14.
They are $3 and change each vs almost $10.
You still need a special dimmer. (inductive load rated)

I made no assumption or verse about where they were made.

That was silly of you, wasn't it. Virtually all of them are made in
China

So?

You also assume the $1.20 lamp is significantly worse than the $3 one.



So, tell me,
how does $3 versus $10 get you to the "7 times as much"?

Because you can buy cheaper regular CFLs but I couldn't find the
dimmables cheaper. I assume they have them.
You still ignore the fact that most existing dimmers specifically say
you can't use them with an inductive load. They may work, they may
not, they might just burn up. Hopefully the fire will be contained
inside the box ... or at least that is what U/L says.

Oh, I get it, you just dreamed up a number! I still want to know how
your $3 versus $10 gets you to "7 times as much".