"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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On 8/26/2013 6:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:54:49 -0400, wrote:


That looks like the one and he has the laser in the grip.


Does he like it? Does he find he laser site helpful? I've seen only
one in use at a range, and it
magnified the 'shaking' so much the individual aiming the weapon
finally turned it off. I think he
was just embarrassed.

John (Gun Nut) H.

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Based on the limited experience I've had, I think the lasers
installed in handguns are a total waste of time. Unless you shoot
indoors at a somewhat darkened range, they aren't strong enough to
illuminate the target. I do most of my range shooting at an
outdoor
range and the lasers are totally worthless. The Walther PPK and
the
S&W Bodyguard both have lasers. Can't see them outdoors at 25
yards.
In fact, I can't see them even at 10 yards outside in sunlight.

They work ok in the house but unless there's an intruder, what's
the
point? And if there was ever a life threatening confrontation
with
an intruder, it's going to be a relatively close range and I am
not
going to worry about taking the time to turn the stupid laser on.

The only firearm I have that has a laser strong enough to see
outdoors
at a reasonable range is the one installed in the Ruger 10/22 rifle
that I recently purchased. But, I still don't bother using it.
It's a stronger laser but the battery life is limited. I mounted
a
scope on the rifle and, after boresighting and adjusting the laser,
I
used it to adjust and calibrate the scope. Haven't used it since.

I wouldn't pay anything extra for a laser. If it comes standard
with
the gun, fine, but I wouldn't go searching for a laser equipped
handgun based on that feature alone.


Try a green laser


One friend of mine says "the guys shooting you can use it to pinpoint
you", but that assumes you are in a "gunfight". I suspect if I carried
a
weapon and pulled it, whatever happened would be over quite quickly.
That being said. There is also the intimidation factor...

The rack of a shotgun is probably the most recognizable sound out
there
as far as deterrent is concerned .. If a bad guy, or a good guy for
that
matter hears that sound he knows he has met resistance, and possibly
someone has just gotten the jump, and it's time to get the hell out of
there if you can or lay down and hope the guy doesn't hit the bang
switch (from a previous post. Similarly, if that guy sees a red
dot
on his shirt, or even the trace of the laser after the first volley,
unless he is also familiar with laser clad guns, I assume it would
have
a similar intimation effect... It only takes a second of distraction
or
second guessing to get the jump on "the bad guy", so I might want that
laser anyway....

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I agree the sound of racking a shotgun is probably a strong sound
deterrent.

Don't agree about the laser spot for reasons I've already stated plus
the fact that an intruder probably won't notice the spot on his chest
or head at first, even if you had the time to find the button or
switch and turn it on.

I think a lot of this "what if" talk is bogus anyway. If you woke up
at 2 am with the sound of someone breaking into your house, or
approaching you in your room, there isn't going to be a whole hell of
a lot of time to think about what to do to "scare" the intruder away.
That's why my home defense firearm of choice is the little 38 Special.
It's a simple revolver, ready to fire either in double or single
action mode. No racking of slides, no safeties, no laser. Just
pull the trigger and "bang".