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How sailing failure is defined.
How is sailing failure defined?
Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand Each of these failures will be individually discussed below. They represent the various ways folks can become sailing failures. The pitfalls are easily pigeonholed. They seem to fall into categories and the failures are certainly not original in any way. Rather, they are stereotypical and represent thousands of wannabe sailors the world over. 1) Hapless Joe, skipper of the erstwhile motorsailer, "Red Cloud." Most of you know his story. Abandoned his boat because he lacked the basic skills to handle a cold front in the Gulf of Mexico while trying to deliver a couple tons of coffee beans. Used his diesel until he wore it slap out and was forced to sail and found out he didn't know how to sail nor did he have the necessary storm sails when the going got tough. Yet he still claims to be selling 'green' coffee. This while the hulk of the Red Cloud sits on the bottom in the Gulf leaching diesel, rust and all manner of other pollution and for years to come. Now, he "sails" some old pile of crap Owens Aruba. 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock. Bruce had a dream. He started off on a circumnavigation but overreached. Only made it halfway around and ran out of steam. His choice of a vessel was too large, to cumbersome, to complicated for him to handle. One problem after another soon ground his pie-in-the-sky enterprise to a halt. He got as far as Thailand where his goal has languished now for over thirty years. He simply could not face the prospect of continuing because it finally dawned on him that he wasn't up to the task. Now he pretends to be an authority. 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop doesn't have what it takes to be a real sailor either. His entire life revolves around his desire to control every aspect of his environment whether it be Usenet netKKKopping or neighborhood agitation (community organizer) against everything from airplane traffic to power pole placement. He's been involved with one failed or failing sailing instruction venture after another and was recently fired from one where he hijacked their web site and used it as a means to whine and slander those who fired his sorry arse. Gaynze will never be a sailor because he's got to be doing things that make him a thorn in the side of those who associate with him. 4) Bobsprit who is a dreamer never had what it took to be a sailor. He's become a daddy like many daddies today - Mr. Mom. Pathetic! While his wife goes to work every day, Bobsprit baby-sits and spends the majority of his time doing other female duties. He finally gave up bragging about his little afternoon sailing attempts which generally ended up in one disaster after another as in hitting the same rock about five times in a row. He can't handle the most basic of boat maintenance as evidenced by the water damage to the sole of his latest ugly boat. He hasn't been heard from much lately probably because he never sails any more. Dishpan hands make sailing too painful. 5) Doug King the trawler queen was a pretend sailor for a while but it was always evident that he was one of these people who preferred sanding, varnishing and polishing over sailing. He uses a boat primarily as an object for bragging rights. His idea of sailing has always been talking to people on the dock who admired the spit shine of his show vessel. Now, Doug's given up on sailing and has turned into a tug-boat trawler maintenance man. To Doug appearance is all that matters. It's a case of, "Hey, lookit meeeee!" as he chugs up and down some sheltered channel where he can depend upon an audience on the banks who admire his handiwork. 6) Seahag the chronic builder has faded into the dust pile of history. She and her husband never completed the old wreck of a wooden boat they worked on for twenty some odd years. They have finally run out of energy and funds and still live aboard at the dock in a boat that crumbles under them faster than they can keep up with the repairs. Their story is one of a completely failed Bruce in Bangkok. While Bruce failed halfway, Seahag never even got started. Well, at least Seahag can be comforted by the fact that her story isn't unique. While some sail, many others work and dream and never accomplish more that that. 7) Katysails who was a friend of Seahag did try to sail from time to time but living in Michigan her sailing season was very short. I don't think she ever got the hang of it and that school marm of a husband never had what it took either. Their boat was some cheap French abomination that was built flimsy and did not sail well. Last I heard they finally got some sense and moved south (their boat on a truck) where the last I heard Katy was trying to figure out how to keep condensation from forming inside her boat. They're both retired now but can't break the bonds of life ashore. They live in some rented shack and their boat rots and mildews away on a mooring up some muddy river in North Carolina. Katy's going blind in one eye and can't see too well out of the other. Even her typing has gotten worse, if that can possibly be, in the past year or so. These two are done when it comes to sailing. They might as well give up even the pretense of it. 8) Then there's Dave the lawyer. He's never mentioned his boat and it's apparent he doesn't own a boat nor does he ever sail a boat. He's just another know-it-all lawyer who thinks he can bluff his way through the newsgroup and nobody will challenge his lack of sailing credentials. His only real accomplishment here has been smacking Capt. J.G. from one end of Usenet to the other but, then again, is that really an accomplishment? Hell, anybody can step on a maggot! 9) KCL Lewis the dreamer. Karin lives aboard so she's more of a sailor than most but she's lost her nerve and doesn't sail anymore. She is the opposite of Seahag, however. While Seahag enjoyed being a boat yard monkey, Karin fancies herself a spic and span admiral of the seas. She's got this self-image that makes her think she knows it all and people need to salute her as she strolls by. She isn't any too bright because she lives aboard but isn't bright enough to sail to milder climes so she suffers half the winter in the cold when she could easily sail to where it's warm and enjoyable most of the year. But, then again nobody ever said a Rawson 30 was anything but a heavy and slow cruiser. Perhaps too much for even a manly-looking female to handle. 10) Bob. What a pitiful character! Here's what he wrote recently: "I am eager to start sweeping floors and scrubbing heads." What kind of a loser has that disgusting prospect as a goal in life? You are no sailor unless and until you sail, Bob. Doing janitor work on a work boat doesn't make you a sailor. It makes you a common unskilled laborer - get a clue. Wilbur Hubbard |
How sailing failure is defined.
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand snippage 9) KCL Lewis the dreamer. Karin lives aboard so she's more of a sailor than most but she's lost her nerve and doesn't sail anymore. She is the opposite of Seahag, however. While Seahag enjoyed being a boat yard monkey, Karin fancies herself a spic and span admiral of the seas. She's got this self-image that makes her think she knows it all and people need to salute her as she strolls by. She isn't any too bright because she lives aboard but isn't bright enough to sail to milder climes so she suffers half the winter in the cold when she could easily sail to where it's warm and enjoyable most of the year. But, then again nobody ever said a Rawson 30 was anything but a heavy and slow cruiser. Perhaps too much for even a manly-looking female to handle. Wilbur Hubbard Almost correct. I'm not too bright, but smart enough not to try to live-aboard on the hard through the harsh UP winters. And I don't think people need to salute me. They do it voluntarily. My Rawson 30 is "heavy and slow," perhaps that's true. But it suits my personality and body type, so I can't complain. KLC Lewis Admiral of the Ocean Sea |
How sailing failure is defined.
KLC Lewis wrote:
castrated the drivel Almost correct. I'm not too bright, but smart enough not to try to live-aboard on the hard through the harsh UP winters. And I don't think people need to salute me. They do it voluntarily. My Rawson 30 is "heavy and slow," perhaps that's true. But it suits my personality and body type, so I can't complain. KLC Lewis Admiral of the Ocean Sea Where you at in the UP? We have to go up there sometime this summer to take a load of historical stuff from the family to the family museum in Haight Twp.... |
How sailing failure is defined.
"katy" wrote in message om... KLC Lewis wrote: castrated the drivel Almost correct. I'm not too bright, but smart enough not to try to live-aboard on the hard through the harsh UP winters. And I don't think people need to salute me. They do it voluntarily. My Rawson 30 is "heavy and slow," perhaps that's true. But it suits my personality and body type, so I can't complain. KLC Lewis Admiral of the Ocean Sea Where you at in the UP? We have to go up there sometime this summer to take a load of historical stuff from the family to the family museum in Haight Twp.... I dock up in Marinette (up from where I live in Wisconsin). Great sailing on the bay, great anchorages and harbors to visit over on Door Peninsula. Marinette isn't technically in the UP, as it's across the bridge from Menominee, MI. Close enough as far as the weather goes, though. |
How sailing failure is defined.
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... On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall With all those awards, you'd think it would be time to name an award after him, as well as a Gregory Hall Lifetime Achievement Award, for him. This sounds like a prelude to him disappearing for a while. It wouldn't be the first time, but maybe it'll be the last. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"katy" wrote in message om... KLC Lewis wrote: castrated the drivel Almost correct. I'm not too bright, but smart enough not to try to live-aboard on the hard through the harsh UP winters. And I don't think people need to salute me. They do it voluntarily. My Rawson 30 is "heavy and slow," perhaps that's true. But it suits my personality and body type, so I can't complain. KLC Lewis Admiral of the Ocean Sea Where you at in the UP? We have to go up there sometime this summer to take a load of historical stuff from the family to the family museum in Haight Twp.... I dock up in Marinette (up from where I live in Wisconsin). Great sailing on the bay, great anchorages and harbors to visit over on Door Peninsula. Marinette isn't technically in the UP, as it's across the bridge from Menominee, MI. Close enough as far as the weather goes, though. True..that is great sailing up htere...we had our boat at Whitehall for years and then Muskegon and Lake Michigan is home ground (water) for us...Now she's down here in NC and we don't ever have to worry about 6 month haulouts or pink KoolAId ever again |
How sailing failure is defined.
"katy" wrote in message om... True..that is great sailing up htere...we had our boat at Whitehall for years and then Muskegon and Lake Michigan is home ground (water) for us...Now she's down here in NC and we don't ever have to worry about 6 month haulouts or pink KoolAId ever again My pretty-much ideal sailing grounds would be the Great Lakes in the summer. Unfortunately, the water does get too hard for sailing for way too long each year, and by December I'm thinking of moving south. But then I remember things like "Palmetto Bugs" and other giant cockroachy critters. Wouldn't mind moving back to southern California if it wasn't so bleeding insane out there. I can't wait until global warming allows me to keep my boat sailing on Green Bay and Lake Michigan year-round. |
How sailing failure is defined.
KLC Lewis wrote:
My pretty-much ideal sailing grounds would be the Great Lakes in the summer. Unfortunately, the water does get too hard for sailing for way too long each year, and by December I'm thinking of moving south. But then I remember things like "Palmetto Bugs" and other giant cockroachy critters. Wouldn't mind moving back to southern California if it wasn't so bleeding insane out there. Yes..andyoucanswimwithout ea of an errant shar tain off an appendage...eery timewe go out to the pier to fish where i caught a 3 ft shark and se others hauled in regularly) and I see mother's letting their kids swim in the surf at the beginning, I cringe and want torun up there screaming "sharks!".... I can't wait until global warming allows me to keep my boat sailing on Green Bay and Lake Michigan year-round. THat will be grest..then we won't hae to go south for the winter to get out of the crap...but don't hold youe breath...my daughter gies me weekly weather reports and it doesn;t seemlike gloabl warming is arriing in Michigan any time soon... |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote:
My pretty-much ideal sailing grounds would be the Great Lakes in the summer. Why? True, fresh water is nice. But there's a lot of great places to sail on both coasts... without biting flies, rocks, ore boats, submerged fish traps, lampreys, etc etc. Unfortunately, the water does get too hard for sailing for way too long each year, and by December I'm thinking of moving south. But then I remember things like "Palmetto Bugs" and other giant cockroachy critters. Wouldn't mind moving back to southern California if it wasn't so bleeding insane out there. No wind in southern Cali. Might as wellkeep heading south, you're gonna have to learn Spanish anywhere south of Portland. I can't wait until global warming allows me to keep my boat sailing on Green Bay and Lake Michigan year-round. Freezing temps here in NC tonight... although we're due, it's been sunny and warm (hi temps ~ 70F) most of the week. In fact it's been GREAT sailing weather.... maybe a little windy ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
How sailing failure is defined.
wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote: My pretty-much ideal sailing grounds would be the Great Lakes in the summer. Why? True, fresh water is nice. But there's a lot of great places to sail on both coasts... without biting flies, rocks, ore boats, submerged fish traps, lampreys, etc etc. Oh, I know about sailing salt water and have nothing at all against it. I learned to sail in Charleston, SC, sailed in the Med, and bought our first boat in Long Beach where we lived-aboard and sailed for years. I miss the Pacific rollers, and the usually-nice weather. But Green Bay in the summer is just...nice. Everything is a daysail away, or less. For what I'm doing now it fits nicely. If I want to make longer passages, the rest of the Great Lakes are conveniently connected to my bay. Unfortunately, the water does get too hard for sailing for way too long each year, and by December I'm thinking of moving south. But then I remember things like "Palmetto Bugs" and other giant cockroachy critters. Wouldn't mind moving back to southern California if it wasn't so bleeding insane out there. No wind in southern Cali. Might as wellkeep heading south, you're gonna have to learn Spanish anywhere south of Portland. Ya, SoCal is known for its "light and variable" conditions, but that didn't stop me from sailing. Fact is the wind blows enough year-round that you can almost always sail if you want to, as long as you're not in a hurry. That's why God invented "light air" sails. If I was in a hurry, I'd have a powerboat. I can't wait until global warming allows me to keep my boat sailing on Green Bay and Lake Michigan year-round. Freezing temps here in NC tonight... although we're due, it's been sunny and warm (hi temps ~ 70F) most of the week. In fact it's been GREAT sailing weather.... maybe a little windy ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
How sailing failure is defined.
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:51:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand Actually, you left one bloke off the list - the Amazing Willbur Each of these failures will be individually discussed below. They represent the various ways folks can become sailing failures. The pitfalls are easily pigeonholed. They seem to fall into categories and the failures are certainly not original in any way. Rather, they are stereotypical and represent thousands of wannabe sailors the world over. 0) The Amazing Wilbur - hides his light under a fictitious and Internet address. Alleges he owns several large and expensive yachts and gives lessons on saving money by stealing from Walmart - a venue that is seldom visited by chaps who have the dosh to buy a 65 ft. sailing yacht. Gives advise to all and sundry - frequently incorrect, the famous "oars must fit inside the dinghy" jewel for example - with no apparent knowledge of the subject. Possibly gay or a sexual predator as his writing displays a nearly psychopathic hatred of women. Possible too poor to even own an operable boat as a recent expose' alleges that he drives an ancient rust riddled vehicle and his "**** yellow boat" is apparently permanently moored derelict. Alleged to rent a room to live in ashore. Reportedly seen by the community in which he resides as, well, a bit strange - the type of individual who when arrested for stealing women's knickers off washing lines incurs the comment "Well, he always did act a bit odd - used to watch dogs lick themselves, you know - and giggle. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall Gorry! Old Wilbur may be a nonentity but his sock puppet ol' Gregory there is famous - got his own page in the Wiki 'n all. A sock of a sock, of possibly a sock, is now enshrined in the Internet Book of Fools. A feat to be proud of! Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:13:14 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall With all those awards, you'd think it would be time to name an award after him, as well as a Gregory Hall Lifetime Achievement Award, for him. This sounds like a prelude to him disappearing for a while. It wouldn't be the first time, but maybe it'll be the last. He might disappear but he will return as Imma Jerk, or some other name Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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How sailing failure is defined.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:49:46 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:13:14 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall With all those awards, you'd think it would be time to name an award after him, as well as a Gregory Hall Lifetime Achievement Award, for him. This sounds like a prelude to him disappearing for a while. It wouldn't be the first time, but maybe it'll be the last. He might disappear but he will return as Imma Jerk, or some other name Cheers, One shortlived iteration was Simple Simon. Another was Ellen MacArthur. |
How sailing failure is defined.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:58:53 -0500, katy
wrote: wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:49:46 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:13:14 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall With all those awards, you'd think it would be time to name an award after him, as well as a Gregory Hall Lifetime Achievement Award, for him. This sounds like a prelude to him disappearing for a while. It wouldn't be the first time, but maybe it'll be the last. He might disappear but he will return as Imma Jerk, or some other name Cheers, One shortlived iteration was Simple Simon. Another was Ellen MacArthur. Oh ,ordy...Ellen MacArthur....he had a lot of people convinced about her for a while until the inevitable mistakes started popping up... I don't know of anybody who didn't figure that one out very quickly. After all the posts from Neal raging about the real Ellen, it was too obvious. |
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... On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:58:53 -0500, katy wrote: wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:49:46 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:13:14 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall With all those awards, you'd think it would be time to name an award after him, as well as a Gregory Hall Lifetime Achievement Award, for him. This sounds like a prelude to him disappearing for a while. It wouldn't be the first time, but maybe it'll be the last. He might disappear but he will return as Imma Jerk, or some other name Cheers, One shortlived iteration was Simple Simon. Another was Ellen MacArthur. Oh ,ordy...Ellen MacArthur....he had a lot of people convinced about her for a while until the inevitable mistakes started popping up... I don't know of anybody who didn't figure that one out very quickly. After all the posts from Neal raging about the real Ellen, it was too obvious. I'm pretty slow... took me about 2 posts. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:58:53 -0500, katy wrote: wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:49:46 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:13:14 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote: http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Gregory_Hall With all those awards, you'd think it would be time to name an award after him, as well as a Gregory Hall Lifetime Achievement Award, for him. This sounds like a prelude to him disappearing for a while. It wouldn't be the first time, but maybe it'll be the last. He might disappear but he will return as Imma Jerk, or some other name Cheers, One shortlived iteration was Simple Simon. Another was Ellen MacArthur. Oh ,ordy...Ellen MacArthur....he had a lot of people convinced about her for a while until the inevitable mistakes started popping up... I don't know of anybody who didn't figure that one out very quickly. After all the posts from Neal raging about the real Ellen, it was too obvious. I'm pretty slow... took me about 2 posts. There were 2 that lasted a week in denial...I wil ot embarrass them by giving their names... |
How sailing failure is defined.
On Feb 20, 8:51*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand 10) Bob. What a pitiful character! Here's what he wrote recently: "I am eager to start sweeping floors and scrubbing heads." What kind of a loser has that disgusting prospect as a goal in life? You are no sailor unless and until you sail, Bob. Doing janitor work on a work boat doesn't make you a sailor. It makes you a common unskilled laborer - get a clue. Wilbur Hubbard My Dearist Willbur: Humm, I notice that Skip and Lydia are not listed por que? I belive any ships work, no mater how humble, is honerable. I will be at sea where all good mariners belong. Bob |
How sailing failure is defined.
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand Each of these failures will be individually discussed below. They represent the various ways folks can become sailing failures. The pitfalls are easily pigeonholed. They seem to fall into categories and the failures are certainly not original in any way. Rather, they are stereotypical and represent thousands of wannabe sailors the world over. 1) Hapless Joe, skipper of the erstwhile motorsailer, "Red Cloud." Most of you know his story. Abandoned his boat because he lacked the basic skills to handle a cold front in the Gulf of Mexico while trying to deliver a couple tons of coffee beans. Used his diesel until he wore it slap out and was forced to sail and found out he didn't know how to sail nor did he have the necessary storm sails when the going got tough. Yet he still claims to be selling 'green' coffee. This while the hulk of the Red Cloud sits on the bottom in the Gulf leaching diesel, rust and all manner of other pollution and for years to come. Now, he "sails" some old pile of crap Owens Aruba. 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock. Bruce had a dream. He started off on a circumnavigation but overreached. Only made it halfway around and ran out of steam. His choice of a vessel was too large, to cumbersome, to complicated for him to handle. One problem after another soon ground his pie-in-the-sky enterprise to a halt. He got as far as Thailand where his goal has languished now for over thirty years. He simply could not face the prospect of continuing because it finally dawned on him that he wasn't up to the task. Now he pretends to be an authority. 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop doesn't have what it takes to be a real sailor either. His entire life revolves around his desire to control every aspect of his environment whether it be Usenet netKKKopping or neighborhood agitation (community organizer) against everything from airplane traffic to power pole placement. He's been involved with one failed or failing sailing instruction venture after another and was recently fired from one where he hijacked their web site and used it as a means to whine and slander those who fired his sorry arse. Gaynze will never be a sailor because he's got to be doing things that make him a thorn in the side of those who associate with him. 4) Bobsprit who is a dreamer never had what it took to be a sailor. He's become a daddy like many daddies today - Mr. Mom. Pathetic! While his wife goes to work every day, Bobsprit baby-sits and spends the majority of his time doing other female duties. He finally gave up bragging about his little afternoon sailing attempts which generally ended up in one disaster after another as in hitting the same rock about five times in a row. He can't handle the most basic of boat maintenance as evidenced by the water damage to the sole of his latest ugly boat. He hasn't been heard from much lately probably because he never sails any more. Dishpan hands make sailing too painful. 5) Doug King the trawler queen was a pretend sailor for a while but it was always evident that he was one of these people who preferred sanding, varnishing and polishing over sailing. He uses a boat primarily as an object for bragging rights. His idea of sailing has always been talking to people on the dock who admired the spit shine of his show vessel. Now, Doug's given up on sailing and has turned into a tug-boat trawler maintenance man. To Doug appearance is all that matters. It's a case of, "Hey, lookit meeeee!" as he chugs up and down some sheltered channel where he can depend upon an audience on the banks who admire his handiwork. 6) Seahag the chronic builder has faded into the dust pile of history. She and her husband never completed the old wreck of a wooden boat they worked on for twenty some odd years. They have finally run out of energy and funds and still live aboard at the dock in a boat that crumbles under them faster than they can keep up with the repairs. Their story is one of a completely failed Bruce in Bangkok. While Bruce failed halfway, Seahag never even got started. Well, at least Seahag can be comforted by the fact that her story isn't unique. While some sail, many others work and dream and never accomplish more that that. 7) Katysails who was a friend of Seahag did try to sail from time to time but living in Michigan her sailing season was very short. I don't think she ever got the hang of it and that school marm of a husband never had what it took either. Their boat was some cheap French abomination that was built flimsy and did not sail well. Last I heard they finally got some sense and moved south (their boat on a truck) where the last I heard Katy was trying to figure out how to keep condensation from forming inside her boat. They're both retired now but can't break the bonds of life ashore. They live in some rented shack and their boat rots and mildews away on a mooring up some muddy river in North Carolina. Katy's going blind in one eye and can't see too well out of the other. Even her typing has gotten worse, if that can possibly be, in the past year or so. These two are done when it comes to sailing. They might as well give up even the pretense of it. 8) Then there's Dave the lawyer. He's never mentioned his boat and it's apparent he doesn't own a boat nor does he ever sail a boat. He's just another know-it-all lawyer who thinks he can bluff his way through the newsgroup and nobody will challenge his lack of sailing credentials. His only real accomplishment here has been smacking Capt. J.G. from one end of Usenet to the other but, then again, is that really an accomplishment? Hell, anybody can step on a maggot! 9) KCL Lewis the dreamer. Karin lives aboard so she's more of a sailor than most but she's lost her nerve and doesn't sail anymore. She is the opposite of Seahag, however. While Seahag enjoyed being a boat yard monkey, Karin fancies herself a spic and span admiral of the seas. She's got this self-image that makes her think she knows it all and people need to salute her as she strolls by. She isn't any too bright because she lives aboard but isn't bright enough to sail to milder climes so she suffers half the winter in the cold when she could easily sail to where it's warm and enjoyable most of the year. But, then again nobody ever said a Rawson 30 was anything but a heavy and slow cruiser. Perhaps too much for even a manly-looking female to handle. 10) Bob. What a pitiful character! Here's what he wrote recently: "I am eager to start sweeping floors and scrubbing heads." What kind of a loser has that disgusting prospect as a goal in life? You are no sailor unless and until you sail, Bob. Doing janitor work on a work boat doesn't make you a sailor. It makes you a common unskilled laborer - get a clue. Wilbur Hubbard For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim |
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"JimCate" wrote in message
... troll sh*t removed For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim I'd be happy to add it for you. :) Is it ultra fast with or without the 50 horse? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"JimCate" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim I'd be happy to add it for you. :) Is it ultra fast with or without the 50 horse? It's just plain fast. So fast that you probably wouldn't notice it passing you. Jim |
How sailing failure is defined.
"JimCate" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "JimCate" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim I'd be happy to add it for you. :) Is it ultra fast with or without the 50 horse? It's just plain fast. So fast that you probably wouldn't notice it passing you. Jim Right. Sure. I'm glad you like your boat. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
How sailing failure is defined.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:49:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "JimCate" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "JimCate" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim I'd be happy to add it for you. :) Is it ultra fast with or without the 50 horse? It's just plain fast. So fast that you probably wouldn't notice it passing you. Jim Right. Sure. I'm glad you like your boat. That's refreshing. --Vic |
How sailing failure is defined.
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:49:16 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "JimCate" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "JimCate" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim I'd be happy to add it for you. :) Is it ultra fast with or without the 50 horse? It's just plain fast. So fast that you probably wouldn't notice it passing you. Jim Right. Sure. I'm glad you like your boat. That's refreshing. --Vic I have come to believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If Jim likes his boat, if it serves his needs, then who am I to denegrate it. From what I've read of when and where he sails, he does just fine with it. I know (I hope) he's smart enough not to exceed its limitations, which is true for all of us who sail (or don't I suppose). -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
How sailing failure is defined.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:06:58 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: I have come to believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 10,000 Frenchmen with ugly wives can't be wrong. If Jim likes his boat, if it serves his needs, then who am I to denegrate it. From what I've read of when and where he sails, he does just fine with it. I know (I hope) he's smart enough not to exceed its limitations, which is true for all of us who sail (or don't I suppose). Macs have quite a following. Still my preferred boat for a week-ender, short coastal jaunt boat in skinny Florida waters. Cheap to buy one that's ready, and I don't like wood on a boat. I don't even care about the speed aspect, motor or otherwise. Different strokes. Whatever it takes to get on the water and wake Neal. --Vic |
How sailing failure is defined.
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Right. Sure. I'm glad you like your boat. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Me too. I'm also glad it's yours. ;-) |
How sailing failure is defined.
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Right. Sure. I'm glad you like your boat. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Me too. I'm also glad it's yours. ;-) Heh... well, put it this way, I wouldn't trade my Sabre for her. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
How sailing failure is defined.
Heh... well, put it this way, I wouldn't trade my Sabre for her. But you have sold your soul for much less. |
How sailing failure is defined.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:42:32 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote: On Feb 20, 8:51*am, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand 10) Bob. What a pitiful character! Here's what he wrote recently: "I am eager to start sweeping floors and scrubbing heads." What kind of a loser has that disgusting prospect as a goal in life? You are no sailor unless and until you sail, Bob. Doing janitor work on a work boat doesn't make you a sailor. It makes you a common unskilled laborer - get a clue. Wilbur Hubbard My Dearist Willbur: Humm, I notice that Skip and Lydia are not listed por que? I belive any ships work, no mater how humble, is honerable. I will be at sea where all good mariners belong. Bob Naw, you don't have to apologize. After all, Wilbur is a meter reader for the water company. Can there be any more "common" and "unskilled" occupation then that? A deck hand on a boat is a nuclear scientist compared to a "meter maid". Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
How sailing failure is defined.
Capt. JG wrote:
"JimCate" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed For obvious reasons, my ultra-fast MacGregor 26 wasn't on the list, despite the rantings of some sicko anti-Mac posters. Jim I'd be happy to add it for you. :) Is it ultra fast with or without the 50 horse? When it's on the trailer going down the Xway.... |
How sailing failure is defined.
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand Wilbur Hubbard I used to be high on your failure list. What'd I do to get kicked out??? :{)) L8R Skip, finally catching up via Motzy -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a wide, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
How sailing failure is defined.
Flying Pig wrote:
Hey! "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... How is sailing failure defined? Let me count the ways. 1) Joe of Red Cloud infamy 2) Bruce at the Bangkok dock 3) Capt. J.G. the netKKKop 4) Bobsprit the dreamer 5) Doug King the trawler queen 6) Sea Hag the chronic builder 7) Katysails the blind (in more ways than one) 8) Dave the lawyer who doesn't even own a boat 9) KCL Lewis the admiral 10) Bob the wannabe deck hand Wilbur Hubbard I used to be high on your failure list. What'd I do to get kicked out??? You hanging out in the Bahamas is a thing to be greatly admired, he said recently. I think all you have to do to get back on is leave. Stephen |
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