Are you stating that you lied on an official CG document?

I'm married. If my name was on the doc, my wife would also own the boat. We
have no prenup. In any case she actually paid for the boat, as I had paid for
the previous item....the car.

RB

The documentation should list *all* owners. So, you don't own a boat?
No prenup? How did you con her into that?
Have you ever seen the Cert. of Doc.? How about a pic of this Doc #
'plaque'. Is it legal?
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Are you stating that you lied on an official CG document?

I'm married. If my name was on the doc, my wife would also own the boat.
We
have no prenup. In any case she actually paid for the boat, as I had paid
for
the previous item....the car.

RB

The documentation should list *all* owners. So, you don't own a boat?
No prenup? How did you con her into that?

I did not want my name on paperwork that indicates me as "owner" of anything.


RB

So, if the plaque is removed, all that is left are two holes?
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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How about a pic of this Doc #
'plaque'. Is it legal?

Sure, it's through bolted in the main cockpit locker. Took us a while to
find
it! Usually they're mounted beneath the salon berth.
I'll post the doc next week when I pick it up.

RB

The documentation is as close to a "title" is there is. If you sell a documented vessel,
that is the proof of ownership. The bill of sale, CG-1340, is filled out by the seller,
notarized, and sent in to the Vessel Documentation Center, along with the CG-1258. The
original BOS is retained and a copy is returned. If you document a new vessel you do not
end up with a bill of sale. Since your situation was different - the documentation had
lapsed - the state title has to be sent in.

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/instr/instrex.doc

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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It certainly does. It indicates both physical ownership and managing
ownership. But you knew that since your boat is documented.

Not at all. You don't know the law. The original reciept and insurance and
operator papers indicate ownership. Documentation is NOT a title.
But there's a far better reason to put the documentation in my wife's name.

Sorry.

RB

o, if the plaque is removed, all that is left are two holes?
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Actually, I have no idea of how the plaque his affixed.

RB

The documentation is as close to a "title" is there is. If you sell a
documented vessel,
that is the proof of ownership. The bill of sale, CG-1340, is filled out by the
seller,
notarized, and sent in to the Vessel Documentation Center, along with the
CG-1258.

Repeat after me! The doc is NOT a title. Notarized bill of sale is what's sent
to CG. In this case we had to also send our marriage certificate along with
notorized statement that I was the operator, which was also sent to the
Insurance co.
The marriage cert. was recquired because my name is on the bill of sale, but I
wanted hers on the doc. alone.

RB

Brush your teeth once in a while and the plaque
wil not be affixed.

Good grief, Neal. Not exactly biting humor.

RB

I don't know how the laws work in New York, but I think that the concept of "community
property" applies to divorce, but not necessarily liability, estate and other issues. If
Suzy was listed as the only owner on your CG-1258, she is the owner, not you. If you
tried to sell the boat, or even take it to another country, you would need her permission.

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/forms/cg1258.pdf

-j


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Are you stating that you lied on an official CG document?

I'm married. If my name was on the doc, my wife would also own the boat. We
have no prenup. In any case she actually paid for the boat, as I had paid for
the previous item....the car.

RB

So you don't have a title and you don't have a bill of sale. And your documentation
hasn't arrived. And your plaque is "though bolted."

I never said that documentation was a title, I said it was as close as you get. Since a
state title is not required, and you send in the Builder's Certificate and/or Bill of
Sale, the only real piece of paper you have is the Documentation. And that is accepted as
proof of ownership for virtually all situations.

You may think the you own the boat, but if Suzy's name is on the Documentation, she is the
owner.

And what does the insurance company have to do with this?


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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The documentation is as close to a "title" is there is. If you sell a
documented vessel,
that is the proof of ownership. The bill of sale, CG-1340, is filled out by the
seller,
notarized, and sent in to the Vessel Documentation Center, along with the
CG-1258.

Repeat after me! The doc is NOT a title. Notarized bill of sale is what's sent
to CG. In this case we had to also send our marriage certificate along with
notorized statement that I was the operator, which was also sent to the
Insurance co.
The marriage cert. was recquired because my name is on the bill of sale, but I
wanted hers on the doc. alone.

RB