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Bobsprit
 
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Like many clubs and marinas, mine is protected by a large set of breakwaters.
There is a single entrance/exit for each of the North/South clubs.
When re-entering the club, I will always give way to any boat attempting to
leave. They simply have fewer steerage options in the center channel, while I
have 360 degrees of options. I circle away until the exiting boat is clear.
A few days ago a sailboat was coming up on the breakwater while I was
attempting to leave, both of us under power and both equal distance from the
entrance/exit. Seeing that the other boat had no intention of giving way, I
slowed and held position. I let him know what a dickhead he was, but he
appeared confused. To me it seemed like common sense. Give way to the exiting
boat as he's far more limited.
Everyone I asked agreed that I had the right of way. Is there a "rule" for
this? Who had the right of way?

Capt RB
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Gilligan
 
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Are you in a channel of limited manueverability? Then you have the right of
way. It's in the rules.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Like many clubs and marinas, mine is protected by a large set of

breakwaters.
There is a single entrance/exit for each of the North/South clubs.
When re-entering the club, I will always give way to any boat attempting

to
leave. They simply have fewer steerage options in the center channel,

while I
have 360 degrees of options. I circle away until the exiting boat is

clear.
A few days ago a sailboat was coming up on the breakwater while I was
attempting to leave, both of us under power and both equal distance from

the
entrance/exit. Seeing that the other boat had no intention of giving way,

I
slowed and held position. I let him know what a dickhead he was, but he
appeared confused. To me it seemed like common sense. Give way to the

exiting
boat as he's far more limited.
Everyone I asked agreed that I had the right of way. Is there a "rule" for
this? Who had the right of way?

Capt RB



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Bobsprit
 
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Well, if Bobsprit was not displaying the proper shape or lights then was he
in violation of the rules?

It occured during daylight. I displayed no lights, shapes nor did I sound my
horn.
I believe the last is a violation.

Capt RB
NY
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Capt. Mooron
 
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Understandably your horn finger was in use displaying a day shape for the
oncoming vessel.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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| Well, if Bobsprit was not displaying the proper shape or lights then was
he
| in violation of the rules?
|
| It occured during daylight. I displayed no lights, shapes nor did I sound
my
| horn.
| I believe the last is a violation.
|
| Capt RB
| NY


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Jonathan Ganz
 
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Why is sounding a horn to alert others to your
presence a violation of the rules?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Well, if Bobsprit was not displaying the proper shape or lights then was

he
in violation of the rules?

It occured during daylight. I displayed no lights, shapes nor did I sound

my
horn.
I believe the last is a violation.

Capt RB
NY





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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

Like many clubs and marinas, mine is protected by a large set of breakwaters.
There is a single entrance/exit for each of the North/South clubs.
When re-entering the club, I will always give way to any boat attempting to
leave. They simply have fewer steerage options in the center channel, while I
have 360 degrees of options. I circle away until the exiting boat is clear.
A few days ago a sailboat was coming up on the breakwater while I was
attempting to leave, both of us under power and both equal distance from the
entrance/exit. Seeing that the other boat had no intention of giving way, I
slowed and held position. I let him know what a dickhead he was, but he
appeared confused. To me it seemed like common sense. Give way to the exiting
boat as he's far more limited.
Everyone I asked agreed that I had the right of way. Is there a "rule" for
this? Who had the right of way?

Capt RB



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Capt. Mooron
 
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
|
| Like many clubs and marinas, mine is protected by a large set of
breakwaters.
| There is a single entrance/exit for each of the North/South clubs.
| When re-entering the club, I will always give way to any boat attempting
to
| leave. They simply have fewer steerage options in the center channel,
while I
| have 360 degrees of options. I circle away until the exiting boat is
clear.
| A few days ago a sailboat was coming up on the breakwater while I was
| attempting to leave, both of us under power and both equal distance from
the
| entrance/exit. Seeing that the other boat had no intention of giving
way, I
| slowed and held position. I let him know what a dickhead he was, but he
| appeared confused. To me it seemed like common sense. Give way to the
exiting
| boat as he's far more limited.
| Everyone I asked agreed that I had the right of way. Is there a "rule"
for
| this? Who had the right of way?
|
| Capt RB
|
|


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Simple Simon
 
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Bobsprit,

Good on you for being polite and allowing boats to exit while you wait for them to clear. However, politeness and consideration
have no bearing on the law.

First off, to clear up some obvious confusion, there is no such thing as a vessel constrained by draft in inland waters or the
Inland Rules. This designation is for the International Rules only. Since both vessels were operating under machinery you are
consider by the Rules as motorboats and need to follow the rules concerning motor boats meeting head to head.

Since there is room for two vessels to pass in the channel, according to the rules you should
steer your vessel so you and the oncoming vessel pass port side to port side. If any doubt or danger exists as to the course of
the oncoming vessel you may sound the appropriate danger or doubt signal. At any rate, both vessels should reduce their speed to
bare steerageway and proceed with caution.

Have pity on the poor guy. He did nothing wrong yet you chastised him. Had it been me
I would have jumped aboard your vessel, grabbed the prettiest girl and had my way with her as recompense for your abuse.

To answer your question you did NOT have the right of way. You were NOT the stand-on vessel. Perhaps you should review the Rules
lesson on my World's Famous Novice Lessons at my beyond compare website.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

Like many clubs and marinas, mine is protected by a large set of breakwaters.
There is a single entrance/exit for each of the North/South clubs.
When re-entering the club, I will always give way to any boat attempting to
leave. They simply have fewer steerage options in the center channel, while I
have 360 degrees of options. I circle away until the exiting boat is clear.
A few days ago a sailboat was coming up on the breakwater while I was
attempting to leave, both of us under power and both equal distance from the
entrance/exit. Seeing that the other boat had no intention of giving way, I
slowed and held position. I let him know what a dickhead he was, but he
appeared confused. To me it seemed like common sense. Give way to the exiting
boat as he's far more limited.
Everyone I asked agreed that I had the right of way. Is there a "rule" for
this? Who had the right of way?

Capt RB



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Thomas Stewart
 
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Hey Simple,

The other boat could have been Skippered by Frank or Me and we both are
dead according to the web test. What the hell do we care. Right Frank?

Good reply Neal. Two boats in a good Harbor shouldn't be a problem. Not
with both under power.

OT

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Is the channel really only wide enough for one boat?

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:
Like many clubs and marinas, mine is protected by a large set of breakwaters.
There is a single entrance/exit for each of the North/South clubs.
When re-entering the club, I will always give way to any boat attempting to
leave. They simply have fewer steerage options in the center channel, while I
have 360 degrees of options. I circle away until the exiting boat is clear.
A few days ago a sailboat was coming up on the breakwater while I was
attempting to leave, both of us under power and both equal distance from the
entrance/exit. Seeing that the other boat had no intention of giving way, I
slowed and held position. I let him know what a dickhead he was, but he
appeared confused. To me it seemed like common sense. Give way to the exiting
boat as he's far more limited.
Everyone I asked agreed that I had the right of way. Is there a "rule" for
this? Who had the right of way?

Capt RB




 
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