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![]() "Shen44" wrote in message ... Subject: A tough question for Jeff and Shen44 From: "Simple Simon" Date: 07/27/2003 16:35 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "otnmbrd" Gdog Gdog Gdog Gdog G wrote in message nk.net... Mind if I try? Just talked to Shen and his AOL is typically screwing up and he can't read any newsgroups. Simple Simon wrote: Now, I'm going to expand upon my scenario of an auxiliary sailboat with sails up but not making way while underway because the wind is calm. It is now nighttime and . . . The captain decides to take down his sails so they won't be slating back and forth in the left- over swell. His motor is off. He is still underway and not making way but what is he now? Is he a motor vessel with his engine off or is he a sailboat with his sails down? What do you think? My answer would be that he is a sailboat and can legally run a tricolor light at the masthead. My reason is because he has sails even though they are furled. What say you two? I would disagree (but you expected that). I would hoist NUC. Not under command means some failure of mechanical systems that means the vessel cannot maneuver. Lack of wind is not such a circumstance. No, I think even Jeff and Shen44 would agree with me that NUC is not applicable here Where does it say that in the Rules? NUC means a vessel through some exceptional circumstance cannot maneuver as required by these rules .... a becalmed sailboat with no mechanical power seems to fit this bill perfectly. Wrong! Being becalmed is a normal navigational situation for a sailboat. It cannot be considered an exceptional circumstance. Exceptional circumstance mostly means a mechanical failure of some sort. Steering hydraulics kaput on a motor vessel would make her a NUC. Broken rudder on a sailboat would make her a NUC. Shen I'm disappointed in your response. You are clearly ignorant when it comes to sailing. S.Simon. |
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Subject: A tough question for Jeff and Shen44
From: "Simple Simon" Date: 07/29/2003 06:34 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: snip Where does it say that in the Rules? NUC means a vessel through some exceptional circumstance cannot maneuver as required by these rules .... a becalmed sailboat with no mechanical power seems to fit this bill perfectly. Wrong! Being becalmed is a normal navigational situation for a sailboat. It cannot be considered an exceptional circumstance. ROFL show me where it says that in the rules ..... show me a legal precedence Exceptional circumstance mostly means a mechanical failure of some sort. Steering hydraulics kaput on a motor vessel would make her a NUC. Broken rudder on a sailboat would make her a NUC. Shen I'm disappointed in your response. You are clearly ignorant when it comes to sailing. S.Simon. ROFL awwwww .....well show me the proof you're correct Shen |