You are wrong and you continue to be wrong because
you attempt to defend an erroneous position that cannot
be defended.

S.Simon



...... and you continue to fail to attempt to defend your position on the tug
boat by claiming some "fact" which doesn't exist and doing a dance all around
the bloody mulberry bush and never touching on any of the issues.

Shen

Like I said, a tugboat is only a motor boat and enjoys
no special status unless and until it becomes restricted
in its ability to maneuver (RAM) at which time it must
show the shapes and lights of a RAM as well as any
other lights required by the Rules. When the tugboat
is a RAM then it must sound the fog signal of a RAM.

I fail to see why you seem to think there is some special
circumstance involved here.


"Shen44" wrote in message ...

..... and you continue to fail to attempt to defend your position on the tug
boat by claiming some "fact" which doesn't exist and doing a dance all around
the bloody mulberry bush and never touching on any of the issues.

Shen

ubject: Simon rules - Rules discussion
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 13:30 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Like I said, a tugboat is only a motor boat and enjoys
no special status unless and until it becomes restricted
in its ability to maneuver (RAM) at which time it must
show the shapes and lights of a RAM as well as any
other lights required by the Rules. When the tugboat
is a RAM then it must sound the fog signal of a RAM.

Hey Simple. I realize you have a problem reading and comprehending English, but
even you should be able to understand this ..... SHOW ME where the rules state
the above.
Mind you now, we are talking about a tugboat engaged in towing astern or
pushing ahead or alongside in fog. SHOW ME where the rules say that this vessel
is RAM or must be RAM to sound one prolong followed by two short when in fog.

I fail to see why you seem to think there is some special
circumstance involved here.

I fail; to see how you could arrive at the point of believing that I have said
there is a special circumstance.
This is a simple rule that states which vessels shall blow a specific whistle
signal in fog and I fail to see how someone, even with your limited
intelligence, reading comprehension and experience can fail to understand it.

Shen

Look for my answer to otnmbrd. He already asked
me for the Rules that apply and I listed them. I see
no need to repeat them to you here. Both of you are
equally ignorant so answering one of you should
suffice as an answer to both of you.


"Shen44" wrote in message ...
ubject: Simon rules - Rules discussion
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 13:30 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Like I said, a tugboat is only a motor boat and enjoys
no special status unless and until it becomes restricted
in its ability to maneuver (RAM) at which time it must
show the shapes and lights of a RAM as well as any
other lights required by the Rules. When the tugboat
is a RAM then it must sound the fog signal of a RAM.

Hey Simple. I realize you have a problem reading and comprehending English, but
even you should be able to understand this ..... SHOW ME where the rules state
the above.
Mind you now, we are talking about a tugboat engaged in towing astern or
pushing ahead or alongside in fog. SHOW ME where the rules say that this vessel
is RAM or must be RAM to sound one prolong followed by two short when in fog.

I fail to see why you seem to think there is some special
circumstance involved here.

I fail; to see how you could arrive at the point of believing that I have said
there is a special circumstance.
This is a simple rule that states which vessels shall blow a specific whistle
signal in fog and I fail to see how someone, even with your limited
intelligence, reading comprehension and experience can fail to understand it.

Shen

Your answers were unbelievably stupid and in no way reflected the
meaning of the rules.
It's obvious that among your many failings regarding the rules and
reading, that you don't know what a towboat is.
As I said, give it up Neal. You're an incompetent who seems to derive
pleasure in showing your incompetence.
When's the last time you renewed that learners permit you call a license?
Your answer to me was not only stupid, it was laughably so..... as are
your so-called answers to Shen.
The only reason I continue to answer your post, is to be sure that some
neophyte who is lurking in the background here, does NOT believe that
what you say is gospel, but is, instead, gibberish garbage.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:

Look for my answer to otnmbrd. He already asked
me for the Rules that apply and I listed them. I see
no need to repeat them to you here. Both of you are
equally ignorant so answering one of you should
suffice as an answer to both of you.


"Shen44" wrote in message ...

ubject: Simon rules - Rules discussion
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 13:30 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Like I said, a tugboat is only a motor boat and enjoys
no special status unless and until it becomes restricted
in its ability to maneuver (RAM) at which time it must
show the shapes and lights of a RAM as well as any
other lights required by the Rules. When the tugboat
is a RAM then it must sound the fog signal of a RAM.

Hey Simple. I realize you have a problem reading and comprehending English, but
even you should be able to understand this ..... SHOW ME where the rules state
the above.
Mind you now, we are talking about a tugboat engaged in towing astern or
pushing ahead or alongside in fog. SHOW ME where the rules say that this vessel
is RAM or must be RAM to sound one prolong followed by two short when in fog.

I fail to see why you seem to think there is some special
circumstance involved here.

I fail; to see how you could arrive at the point of believing that I have said
there is a special circumstance.
This is a simple rule that states which vessels shall blow a specific whistle
signal in fog and I fail to see how someone, even with your limited
intelligence, reading comprehension and experience can fail to understand it.

Shen