Are you repeating yourself to make sure I get this?
No you are the victim because you have to comply with those regulations
even when they are not beneficial to you. I can study the ColRegs and apply
them and use them the same way you do. Except I don't have to have any
friggin' paper charts onboard.

We could always put training wheels on your Coronado yachts and sell them as
Trimarans. We could actually make a nice scam out of this you know. At the
appropriate moment I could let a paper chart fly into the face of the
skipper on the yielding vessel. He'd be so blinded by this that he would not
take the appropriate action and you could sue the **** out of him.

Simple Simon wrote:
It's the opposite of what you might thing. Rather than
being a victim of the USCG tests and regulations I'm
a beneficiary of a superior knowledge and understanding
of how the COLREGS apply and how to become a safer,
saner and more responsible sailor. The things I know that,
all by themselves, will keep me from being 'at fault' in any
possible close quarters situation or collision will allow me
to sue the **** out of any motorboater who is unfortunate
enough to hit me. In this manner I can parlay a small
investment in time and study into a brand new, million-dollar
yacht. Better yet, I might decide to start a new world class
yacht company named "Coronado Yachts" and build my
own perfect sailboat. You wouldn't be interested, though,
because the perfect yacht has only ONE hull.

S.Simon


"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
No no. I am bragging about being a real sailor and not somebody tied
up by
regulations and ´certifications. I can make the correct decision
based upon
what is happening. You have to make the correct decision based upon
whether
you want to keep your license or not.

And yes I am not a professional seafarer althoough I am a real
sailor. You
just don't have the guts to stand up and say. BURN THOSE PAPER
CHARTS.

Comer to think of it you are starting to sound like you are a victim
of the
USCG. How did you ever manage to put yourself in such a spot? Please
don't
tell me you had *fun* in the makings of that. If you did I will
never again
read your lessons for novices.

Simple Simon wrote:
That's fine. Knock yourself out! But, I don't have that
option. It's much easier for you because you've nothing
in the way of certification or skills so you've nothing to
lose. In a way you're bragging about being an amateur.
Like I said, knock yourself out.

S.Simon


"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Who the hell is a USCG licensed Captain or Master? I'm not and I
refuse to
spend any more money on updating my papercharts, when I can spend
it
on far
more superior electronic charts.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
You can't be so dumb to not know of the USCG requirement
for all their licensed Captains and Masters to have a PAPER
chart of the area aboard their vessels. Electronic simply won't
do.

S.Simon


"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
news Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...

If I had 12 bucks for every GPS or laptop that malfunctioned at
sea.... why I'd be poorer than you, even though I wouldn't
waste
the
occasional twelve bucks that came my way on Rum and
painkillers.

Don't knock it... it's liquid courage to fortify you while you
watch
yet another paper chart flying like a psycho kite downwind with
all
your plots and data. It's also good for post lightening trauma
while
you warm your hands on the fried circuit boards of your high
tech
navigational array.


Not enough. Wanna do a joint venture.

I'm broke ... frickin cost of charts are killin' me!

CM

Don't worry Moroon. If this thread does it's job, everybody on
a.s.a
will
let their paper charts fly with the winds and you can collect a
bundle
of 12
dollar bills. You can also empty the spirits in your compass down
your
throat. That'll save you maybe half a bottle of Overproof.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Sigh.
What am I gonna do with you? How about if I let you keep one chart =
rolled up
and a pencil to go with it.
--
Perre

Ain't worth nuttin without the compass and dividers....
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

How many times has
your flushmounted compass been washed aoverboard?

Our compass is mounted on the binacle...you're going to mount the vga =
screen on the bulkhead like a flat screen tc? good gravy, man...you've =
really lost it....one misplaced winch handle flying across the cockpit =
and there goes your technology....
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Can't make a good gasket from silicon doncha know.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:

Don't you even dare to think that thought.
--
Perre

I will if you persist in such a lubberly fashion...electronic charts? Where's the romance? Where's the glory? What about all those pathetic little pencil marks, lovingly placed every trip with each new find? What if someone blows the friggin satellite up? What f you can't get near enough to a K-Mart to get new ones (let alone steal new ones like one person here)? Perre, you've been brainwashed into the 2st century. Technology isn't everything. I refuse to give up my wonderful rolled up charts (BTW, we buy them on proected paper). I refuse to give up the compass and dividers.

katysails wrote:
How many times has
your flushmounted compass been washed aoverboard?

Our compass is mounted on the binacle...you're going to mount the vga
screen on the bulkhead like a flat screen tc? good gravy,
man...you've really lost it....one misplaced winch handle flying
across the cockpit and there goes your technology....

Katy, you have to stop throwing those winch handles around when you get
upset.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Investing money in rum is never wasted.

PDW

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:32:13 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:

The Captains Master wrote in message
.. .
c Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:21:56 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:

The Captains Master wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:51:41 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:

Navstation. Holy mackerel. What do you think you've got? An Atlantic
freighter. Charts whether paper or electronic belong where the
helmsman
can
see them and nowhere else.

Huh?
What do you sail, an Atlantic freighter?
How do you keep the chart in front of the helmsman on a yacht?



I don't you upsidedowner. I place a screen with an electronic chart in
front
of the helmsman.

Of course you permafrosted porkchop.
But you said you put a paper chart up, never ever had a paper chart in
the cockpit, too easily lost!



I am in total agreement you headhopping kangaroo. I hope the NG doesn't hold
that against me. If you want the helmsman to know where you are going you'll
have to give him an electronic chart. Paper charts in the cockpit are too
easíly lost. On the other hand the Moroon could probably use the 12 bucks
but then again he'd just waste it on Rum.

****ing it away?

Cheers MC

Peter Wiley wrote:

Investing money in rum is never wasted.

PDW

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:32:13 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:


The Captains Master wrote in message
. ..

c Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:21:56 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:


The Captains Master wrote in message
m...

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:51:41 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:

Navstation. Holy mackerel. What do you think you've got? An Atlantic
freighter. Charts whether paper or electronic belong where the

helmsman

can

see them and nowhere else.


Huh?
What do you sail, an Atlantic freighter?
How do you keep the chart in front of the helmsman on a yacht?



I don't you upsidedowner. I place a screen with an electronic chart in

front

of the helmsman.

Of course you permafrosted porkchop.
But you said you put a paper chart up, never ever had a paper chart in
the cockpit, too easily lost!



I am in total agreement you headhopping kangaroo. I hope the NG doesn't hold
that against me. If you want the helmsman to know where you are going you'll
have to give him an electronic chart. Paper charts in the cockpit are too
easíly lost. On the other hand the Moroon could probably use the 12 bucks
but then again he'd just waste it on Rum.

Nice Per, but I've noticed, not a single strike from the wily Bobfish! You
have to remember, the Bobfish is a bottom feeder, you have to come up with a
particularly rancid bait if you hope to land one of these trophies.
John Cairns

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Real sailors use nothing but digital charts. It is folish even to have
paper
charts as backup. What if they get washed overboard for instance, or eaten
by the ships rat. No it is much safer to have a redundant system of
digital
charts.

Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

Hey, if you buy rum instead of charts, you may not know where you are,
but you won't care either. That's a lot better than the alternative
for someone like Bob, who could spend money on charts and still not
know where he was.

PDW

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:41:23 +1200, The_navigator©
wrote:

****ing it away?

Cheers MC

Peter Wiley wrote:

Investing money in rum is never wasted.

PDW

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:32:13 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:


The Captains Master wrote in message
...

c Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:21:56 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:


The Captains Master wrote in message
om...

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:51:41 +0200, "Per Elmsäter"
wrote:

Navstation. Holy mackerel. What do you think you've got? An Atlantic
freighter. Charts whether paper or electronic belong where the

helmsman

can

see them and nowhere else.


Huh?
What do you sail, an Atlantic freighter?
How do you keep the chart in front of the helmsman on a yacht?



I don't you upsidedowner. I place a screen with an electronic chart in

front

of the helmsman.

Of course you permafrosted porkchop.
But you said you put a paper chart up, never ever had a paper chart in
the cockpit, too easily lost!



I am in total agreement you headhopping kangaroo. I hope the NG doesn't hold
that against me. If you want the helmsman to know where you are going you'll
have to give him an electronic chart. Paper charts in the cockpit are too
easíly lost. On the other hand the Moroon could probably use the 12 bucks
but then again he'd just waste it on Rum.

The trick is to stay away from sailing related subjects if you wanna catch a
Booblefish.

John Cairns wrote:
Nice Per, but I've noticed, not a single strike from the wily
Bobfish! You have to remember, the Bobfish is a bottom feeder, you
have to come up with a particularly rancid bait if you hope to land
one of these trophies.
John Cairns

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Real sailors use nothing but digital charts. It is folish even to
have paper charts as backup. What if they get washed overboard for
instance, or eaten by the ships rat. No it is much safer to have a
redundant system of digital charts.

Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

--
Perre

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