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John Cairns August 26th 03 05:02 AM

Moorings
 
Had this discussion not too long ago, apparently there were moorings in
these environs in the 60's, the locals on shore objected to them, claimed
they were visual pollution, got the DNR to ban them. There were no
organizations in these parts to oppose them, they ban was made to stick. On
Lake Michigan, sailors successfully fought off the DNR, you can still find
moorings. End of story.
John Cairns



Simple Simon August 26th 03 03:09 PM

Moorings
 
To get around any mooring law simply use a huge anchor.

Leave it down indefinitely once placed and bouy it with
a trap float upon which is written "anchor-private".

'No anchoring' laws are much harder to enforce because
anchoring is considered navigation and navigation comes
under the auspices of the feds who could care less about
what some local community wants to ban. Admiralty law
protects and favors the right to navigate and thus to anchor.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...
Had this discussion not too long ago, apparently there were moorings in
these environs in the 60's, the locals on shore objected to them, claimed
they were visual pollution, got the DNR to ban them. There were no
organizations in these parts to oppose them, they ban was made to stick. On
Lake Michigan, sailors successfully fought off the DNR, you can still find
moorings. End of story.
John Cairns





Capt. Mooron August 26th 03 08:59 PM

Moorings
 
It's been tried already. Once you leave the "anchor"... it's considered a
mooring.

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| To get around any mooring law simply use a huge anchor.
|
| Leave it down indefinitely once placed and bouy it with
| a trap float upon which is written "anchor-private".
|
| 'No anchoring' laws are much harder to enforce because
| anchoring is considered navigation and navigation comes
| under the auspices of the feds who could care less about
| what some local community wants to ban. Admiralty law
| protects and favors the right to navigate and thus to anchor.
|
| S.Simon
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
...
| Had this discussion not too long ago, apparently there were moorings in
| these environs in the 60's, the locals on shore objected to them,
claimed
| they were visual pollution, got the DNR to ban them. There were no
| organizations in these parts to oppose them, they ban was made to stick.
On
| Lake Michigan, sailors successfully fought off the DNR, you can still
find
| moorings. End of story.
| John Cairns
|
|
|
|



John Cairns August 26th 03 11:11 PM

Moorings
 
Huh? The DNR-Department of Natural Resources. At the time the moorings
disappeared, from what my sorces tell me(60's) there were Republican
governors. Really doesn't have anything to do with it, however. Our local
sail club didn't appear on the scene until 1969, IIRC. You should look up
http://www.icle.org/michlaw/oview.cfm?caseid=22572221
I don't think any of the few individuals in these parts that had their boats
on moorings had the resources to take on neighborhood associations on this
side of the river, and the good people of Grosse Ile on the other.
John Cairns
"katysails" wrote in message
...
On
Lake Michigan, sailors successfully fought off the DNR, you can still find
moorings. End of story.

Not exactly....Lake Erie/Lake HuronDemocrat side of state....Lake
MichiganRepublican side of state....also the Romney family owns a ton of
land up on Portage Laake and the dunes of Lake MI, the VanAnde;'s and DeVos'
now own most of Arcadia, and the Milliken's own a bunch of Mackinac
Island....Granholm owns Flint....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Steve Thomas August 27th 03 12:00 AM

Moorings
 
Of course if Issac Brock hadn't been killed, and honoured his commitment, it
would all belong to the Indians.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
On
Lake Michigan, sailors successfully fought off the DNR, you can still find
moorings. End of story.

Not exactly....Lake Erie/Lake HuronDemocrat side of state....Lake
MichiganRepublican side of state....also the Romney family owns a ton of
land up on Portage Laake and the dunes of Lake MI, the VanAnde;'s and DeVos'
now own most of Arcadia, and the Milliken's own a bunch of Mackinac
Island....Granholm owns Flint....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Horvath August 27th 03 12:40 AM

Moorings
 
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:09:40 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

To get around any mooring law simply use a huge anchor.


I use a dock.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Capt. Mooron August 27th 03 12:59 AM

Moorings
 

"The Captains Master" wrote in message
...
| On 26 Aug 2003 22:40:40 GMT, Horvath wrote:
|
| On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:09:40 -0400, "Simple Simon"
| wrote this crap:
|
| To get around any mooring law simply use a huge anchor.
|
| I use a dock.
|
| I use a hoist.

I'm a Scofflaw and refuse to obey.

CM



katysails August 27th 03 04:41 AM

Moorings
 
At the time the moorings
disappeared, from what my sorces tell me(60's) there were Republican
governors.

My point...they all owned land on Lake Michigan and =
thereabouts....didn't give a rat's a** for Erie or Huron....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


The_navigator© August 27th 03 05:39 AM

Moorings
 


The Captains Master wrote:


I use a hoist petard.



Horvath August 28th 03 01:07 PM

Moorings
 
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:44:00 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Sounds painful. Oh, you said dock... sorry.


Your gayness is showing again. You got one thing on your mind.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:09:40 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

To get around any mooring law simply use a huge anchor.


I use a dock.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!


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