"Shen44" wrote in message ...
ROFL Well, it took you long enough to look all this up. It's obvious you were
copying from a book and don't have a clue...... Ya see, Neal,...... YOU MISSED
THE MAIN FUNCTION OF A CHIEF MATE!!


And, what may that be? Remember, I said I've never been on the bridge of
a big ship so it's not to surprising that duties vary according to the size
of the vessel.

And, I didn't get it out of a book. I remembered it the best I could and
tried to put it in big ship terms since you are as ignorant of small vessels
as I am of big ships.

S.Simon

Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"

ROFL Well, it took you long enough to look all this up. It's obvious you
were
copying from a book and don't have a clue...... Ya see, Neal,...... YOU
MISSED
THE MAIN FUNCTION OF A CHIEF MATE!!


And, what may that be? Remember, I said I've never been on the bridge of
a big ship so it's not to surprising that duties vary according to the size
of the vessel.

And, I didn't get it out of a book. I remembered it the best I could and
tried to put it in big ship terms since you are as ignorant of small vessels
as I am of big ships.

S.Simon


ROFL Neal, it's always obvious when you've been caught out in a lie or trying
to say something that you've either made up or read from a book.
Just like you above, you've failed to comment on the Class1, Class2 Mates, for
the reason that you can't explain the difference or need for the classes (your
book didn't cover that).....nor did you respond to any other statement (you
will always quote only those items you THINK you might be right about and
simply ignore the rest.)
The main responsibility of the CM, on any ship (has nothing to do with size) is
CARGO. He's responsible for setting up the load (shoreside does this for dry
cargo and containers, but he must confirm)....how much, where, stability,
stress, draft at load port, draft at arrival.If you're on a tanker, he does it
all, plus supervises all loading and discharging.
Basically, in port, the ship belongs to the CM.

There's a whole heck of a lot more to it than this, but it's a start. BTW, I've
got more time, knowledge, and experience on small vessels, than you'll ever
have ....probably more types, to boot.

ROFL, pack it up Neal, as per usual, you're in over your head.....course....if
you'd like to take a crack at Class1, Class2 Mates, feel free .... BTW, until
you've got some time under your belt, never refer to yourself as "Chief", in
front of the C.E.

Shen

Capt. Shen,

Perhaps you need to go back and read my answers again.

I wrote, among other things:

"Prior to sailing the Chief Mate ensures the ship and all gear, cargo and
related items are secure for sea. He reports to the Master on status of
the crew and ship's readiness."

Do you see that little 'cargo' word? Maybe you need to spend
a little less time rolling on the floor laughing and use the time
gained to clean your glasses or get a new prescription?

As for Class1 and Class2 I'll waste no time on explanations
because you are so dense anyway. However, I will provide
you with a link wherin you can read it for yourself.

http://www.amsa.gov.au/sd/mo/MO_main/MO03.pdf

Check out chapter 6 - Certificates to be held.

Sorry, it's beginning to look like YOU and otn are
the Novice Masters around here. Bwaaahahahahahaah!

S.Simon - a Captain who knows of what he speaks



"Shen44" wrote in message ...
Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"

ROFL Neal, it's always obvious when you've been caught out in a lie or trying
to say something that you've either made up or read from a book.
Just like you above, you've failed to comment on the Class1, Class2 Mates, for
the reason that you can't explain the difference or need for the classes (your
book didn't cover that).....nor did you respond to any other statement (you
will always quote only those items you THINK you might be right about and
simply ignore the rest.)
The main responsibility of the CM, on any ship (has nothing to do with size) is
CARGO. He's responsible for setting up the load (shoreside does this for dry
cargo and containers, but he must confirm)....how much, where, stability,
stress, draft at load port, draft at arrival.If you're on a tanker, he does it
all, plus supervises all loading and discharging.
Basically, in port, the ship belongs to the CM.

There's a whole heck of a lot more to it than this, but it's a start. BTW, I've
got more time, knowledge, and experience on small vessels, than you'll ever
have ....probably more types, to boot.

ROFL, pack it up Neal, as per usual, you're in over your head.....course....if
you'd like to take a crack at Class1, Class2 Mates, feel free .... BTW, until
you've got some time under your belt, never refer to yourself as "Chief", in
front of the C.E.

Shen

Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"

Capt. Shen,

Perhaps you need to go back and read my answers again.

I wrote, among other things:

"Prior to sailing the Chief Mate ensures the ship and all gear, cargo and
related items are secure for sea. He reports to the Master on status of
the crew and ship's readiness."

I read that ... that's a generic duty of all Mates, and has nothing to do with
his main duty, regarding cargo. Nope, you failed again.

Do you see that little 'cargo' word? Maybe you need to spend
a little less time rolling on the floor laughing and use the time
gained to clean your glasses or get a new prescription?

ROFLMAO

As for Class1 and Class2 I'll waste no time on explanations
because you are so dense anyway. However, I will provide
you with a link wherin you can read it for yourself.

http://www.amsa.gov.au/sd/mo/MO_main/MO03.pdf

Check out chapter 6 - Certificates to be held.

Sorry, it's beginning to look like YOU and otn are
the Novice Masters around here. Bwaaahahahahahaah!

S.Simon - a Captain who knows of what he speaks

ROFLMAO (still) Was wondering which country you were talking about. How much
time did you waste finding that? No matter, changes nothing ... Class1 ,
Class2, limited, or unlimited, the wording changes nuffin.

Chief Mate is the "main man" when it comes to cargo, which is his duty that you
didn't know, as expected.

Shen

Give it a rest, Simple Simian, it's obvious you're reading from a book
and have no "first hand" experience.
Shen, same applies (give it a rest), Simple's proved, once again, he
hasn't a clue .... he's still and always will be, a licensed wannabe.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
"Shen44" wrote in message ...

ROFL Well, it took you long enough to look all this up. It's obvious you were
copying from a book and don't have a clue...... Ya see, Neal,...... YOU MISSED
THE MAIN FUNCTION OF A CHIEF MATE!!



And, what may that be? Remember, I said I've never been on the bridge of
a big ship so it's not to surprising that duties vary according to the size
of the vessel.

And, I didn't get it out of a book. I remembered it the best I could and
tried to put it in big ship terms since you are as ignorant of small vessels
as I am of big ships.

S.Simon