"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Donal wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:50:08 +1300, The_navigator©

wrote:

The question is, to you
have a toy or a seaworthy vessel? How many people here even have a
strom
jib?

I suspect that my boat is "seaworthy" in the same sense that Ella is.


Has your boat been inspected?


Certainly NOT! Are you taking the ****? **I** decide if my boat is
seaworthy. I do *NOT* pass the buck to some incompetent, uneducated, idiot
who has failed to meet his parents expectations!



No, I don't have a strom jib.

I have a spinnaker that can be flown in up to 34kts! Does that count?


Ever tried it in 34 knots?



Ohhh Yes! It was goooood!




Regards



Donal
--

No pushpit on my yacht. And the tiller pivots up till it's
completely vertical. The whole thing can the be spun
round and round. Like I said - superior design avoid
many problems accepted by less knowledgeable folks
who continue to abide obsolete systems.

S.Simon


Donals Dilemma wrote in message ...
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:17:23 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Can't see tangs unless I had the thing x-rayed. Putting my
faith in quality Coronado construction. I have never read
a single, solitary report of rudder failure on any Coronado
27. I wonder how it would be possible. My rudder is free
to swing 360 degrees. Unless the tiller was tied rigidly
in place there is little strain on the rudder/rudder stock.
I use bungee cords a lot for self steering and they have
lots of give and would break well before the rudder would.

Ya gotta be smart if ya wanna be a successful sailor like me.

S.Simon

You stand on a step ladder to reach a tiller above that pushpit?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

It easily is raised to a vertical position on a pivot where
the whole system is free to turn round and round as much
as needed.

When I reverse the power on my outboard motor I always
allow the rudder to swing 180 degrees so the prop wash
works against it in the proper direction and it is a joy
to steer in reverse because of this.

Superior design - Wm. Tripp, Sr., you know.

S.Simon

S.Simon.


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Where does the tiller go during this propellor action? Does it whip you
into submission?

Cheers MC

Simple Simian wrote:

Donals Dilemma wrote in message ...

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:00:57 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:
You've no idea how many times I've heard that from owners of yachts
that later come in for rudders. 4" shafts snap like twigs when a yacht
is driven backward by a breaking wave.



That's due to poor design. Any 'barn door' rudder can not
be expected to take the strain on the hinges when it fetches
us hard against the stops.

But, my rudder is free to turn through 360 degrees. How's it gonna
break off when pushed backwards? It will just pivot around on its
axis so the leading edge is leading. Superior design in every way!

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Did they have spare underwear?

No! As usual, the forecast was wrong!


Regards


Donal
--

I guess that why you call them foulies.
;-P
Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Did they have spare underwear?


No! As usual, the forecast was wrong!


Regards


Donal
--

Donals Dilemma wrote:

Umm Cappy, they are fragile tubes about 54mm dia. You could bend one
around your knee, all that is required is a point loading eg pushpit
or an old impact dent.

Maybe he plans to remove the galvanized pipe from the broken boom and
use that.

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message hlink.net...

Maybe he plans to remove the galvanized pipe from the broken boom and
use that.

It would look good used up side your head!

S.Simon

Given that I've only had my boat out the Gate once and given that
it's only 20 feet, I'm not sure I can say that it's seaworthy as far
as offshore goes. In fact, I'm sure it isn't. It is capable of safe
operation in the bay, however. I carry all required safety
equipment, and I have lots of extra good-idea items also. Here,
the CG is only interested in you if you're either boarded on a
spot inspection or get into trouble. There is little, if any consideration
given to prevention. You would not believe some of the vessels
that transit the bay no less leave the bay. People die and boats
capsize and sink quite regularly in the bay itself. Many of the
reasons are alcohol related, but a lot are either due to stupidity or
a crap boat (well, I guess those are the same thing).

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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It seems to me that there is not much idea around here as to what
constitutes seaworthiness. Here in NZ the conditions are more
challenging than in many other places and to sail offshore requires
great attention to detail and sound knowlege of your vessel. Many people
here might consider their vessels "seaworthy", but let me remind you
that seworthiness is a state of preparedness and safely for major
passages and suitabiliuty for storm conditions.

Here in NZ we have to get vessels inspected every 2 years for their
seaworthiness and without a CAT1 clearance the vessel is not allowed to
leave (if owned by a NZ resident). The inspection takes up to ~2 hours
and the inspector also questions the skipper on hisd seamanship (it
helps if you already have qualifications like Ocean yactmaster or even
Coastal skipper) for it is also the application his knowlege that makes
the vessel seaworthy (or not). In many cases vessel arrive here from
overseas which are patently unseaworthy and these days they are allowed
to leave -after a strong talking to by the inspector as to why their
vessels are unsuitable and what will likely happen to them in bad
conditions. For that reason, it would seem that many US and EU vessels
arrive but never leave.

When the real sailor thinks about his vessel he thinks about how she
will cope if hit by storm force winds in the open sea if he wishes to
call his vessel seaworthy. If the vessel is not seworthy then it is just
a toy for amusement on nice fair wind days. The question is, to you
have a toy or a seaworthy vessel? How many people here even have a strom
jib?

Cheers MC

Do you really expect Katy to follow you when you leave?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Go away with your inane comments, please.

S.Simon

"katysails" wrote in message
...
the new boat buyers
seem to be convinced that the key to performance is the big headsail,
wing keel and 3 bladed prop

Definition of a Catalina sailor....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

You're in no danger of running across an NZ inspector, since
you'll never be taking your boat anywhere, let alone NZ.

$5... put up or shut up loser.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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My vessel is seaworthy. I would get really ****ed if I had sailed
to NZ and some fool bureaucrat tried to tell me my vessel was
not seaworthy. The very fact that the bureaucrat was looking
at it proves him wrong.

I have a storm jib and a storm trysail. I have a 75% jib and
double reefing on the mainsail. All my sails are relatively new
and the storm sails have very little use so they are still strong
and sound.

My vessel has all new standing rigging and positive flotation.
I don't need some nerdy bureaucrat snooping around demanding
fees for 'services' which are not wanted or needed.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
It seems to me that there is not much idea around here as to what
constitutes seaworthiness. Here in NZ the conditions are more
challenging than in many other places and to sail offshore requires
great attention to detail and sound knowlege of your vessel. Many people
here might consider their vessels "seaworthy", but let me remind you
that seworthiness is a state of preparedness and safely for major
passages and suitabiliuty for storm conditions.

Here in NZ we have to get vessels inspected every 2 years for their
seaworthiness and without a CAT1 clearance the vessel is not allowed to
leave (if owned by a NZ resident). The inspection takes up to ~2 hours
and the inspector also questions the skipper on hisd seamanship (it
helps if you already have qualifications like Ocean yactmaster or even
Coastal skipper) for it is also the application his knowlege that makes
the vessel seaworthy (or not). In many cases vessel arrive here from
overseas which are patently unseaworthy and these days they are allowed
to leave -after a strong talking to by the inspector as to why their
vessels are unsuitable and what will likely happen to them in bad
conditions. For that reason, it would seem that many US and EU vessels
arrive but never leave.

When the real sailor thinks about his vessel he thinks about how she
will cope if hit by storm force winds in the open sea if he wishes to
call his vessel seaworthy. If the vessel is not seworthy then it is just
a toy for amusement on nice fair wind days. The question is, to you
have a toy or a seaworthy vessel? How many people here even have a strom
jib?

Cheers MC