If you were a waitress at Hooters (fat chance) and served the same meal to
1) a very wealthy man, 2) a slob in a t-shirt, wouldn't you expect more of a
tip from the 'rich guy'?

SV


"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:40:25 -0500, "The Carrolls"
wrote this crap:

So shouldn"t the wealthy pay a larger percentage?

No. Why should anyone pay a larger percentage?

BTW, when I walk into Hooters for lunch, I pay the same as anyone
else. they don't charge me more or less because of what I earn. Why
should taxes be any different? When I go shopping, nobody makes me
fill out a form based on my income, to determine what I should pay.
I'm charged the same as everyone else.

In fact, if they did charge me more, I would do my shopping in another
country.




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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:31:57 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

If you were a waitress at Hooters (fat chance) and served the same meal to
1) a very wealthy man, 2) a slob in a t-shirt, wouldn't you expect more of a
tip from the 'rich guy'?

Hey! I like wearing t-shirts. I have a fine collection of Hooters
t-shirts. And i probably tip more than you.




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G Interesting - comments interspersed

The Carrolls wrote:
Read my post to Simple Simon. You get what you pay for. Live better pay more
than living poorly. I bet you live better than the national median. Why did
you use median any way, why not average? Only to skew your facts I think.

You're looking for something that's not there. I looked for a national
average wage, and found the "median"... "close enough for gov'ment work".
What I can't understand..... if I pay 10% and someone who makes the
"median" pays 10%, aren't I paying more? For the same services? Is there
something wrong with me living better than the national median? Or isn't
this "Politically correct"?

You pay insurance to protect your self, not me, you could be self insured.

Not totally correct, but it's nitpicking on my part.

Unless you are speaking of government insurance a program you mostlikely are
glad to have. Your licenses keep any joker from moving into your field
diluting the skills base, insuring lesser competition to you.

I'm not allowed any government insurance programs. My licenses do not
keep any licensed joker from trying to move in, only my performance does
that.

Also you are
saying you worked harder than anyone who makes less than you?

G What would make you think that? I worked my butt off to get where I
am, I continue to do so to stay where I am..... no relation to how hard
someone of any income has to work. Physically, I worked much harder,
when I was working for my father, collecting rubbish.

Were you
luckier than them, or better or privledged? Certianly there are government
programs you take advantage of, Highways, ADC keeps some poor slob from
becoming a thief and stealing your chit, the school you attended, law
enforcement that allowes you to conduct commerce in a civil environment. I
could go on, but am choosing to save ammunition for a rebuttal.

Luckier than some, less so than other's and sometimes I made my own
luck. Better? How so? At what I do, I'm better than average (actually,
damn better, but that's neither here nor there.). I can't think of any
government programs that I take advantage of (I'm sure someone will
correct me on this - talking specific aid programs), but isn't this part
of what I pay taxes for? And can you please explain why I should pay,
not only more, but a higher percentage of that more, for the same
services? ( I believe in the "more" of an equal percentage, it's the
"more" of a greater percentage that bugs me.)

The basic tax system is highly flawed and isn't going to be fixed by the
government or any other group by simply writing new statutes (flawed) to
try to correct it.

G Maybe my problem is that I rely too much on the KISS principle for
my everyday existence.

otn
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
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The Carrolls wrote:

So shouldn"t the wealthy pay a larger percentage?

Why? My Yearly income tax bill, exceeds the national median income.
Are you saying that because I went to school for most of my life, got
into an industry that has to pay well to keep me, worked my butt off and
continue to do so, pay top dollar for various insurance and licenses, am
not eligible for most government assistance programs due to my income,
receive no special treatment for day to day benefits of living in this
country, that I should pay a greater percentage of my salary for this
"privilege"?
BULLCHIT!!!!!!
Modified Flat Tax....Below a national median poverty level ....no tax;
poverty level to the median income level .... half tax; median income
level and above, 10% tax on gross CASH INCOME. EG let the games begin !

otn

Horass wears dirty tee shirts and has hooters. BWAHAHAHAHAHAH.
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
If you were a waitress at Hooters (fat chance) and served the same meal to
1) a very wealthy man, 2) a slob in a t-shirt, wouldn't you expect more of
a
tip from the 'rich guy'?

SV


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:40:25 -0500, "The Carrolls"
wrote this crap:

So shouldn"t the wealthy pay a larger percentage?

No. Why should anyone pay a larger percentage?

BTW, when I walk into Hooters for lunch, I pay the same as anyone
else. they don't charge me more or less because of what I earn. Why
should taxes be any different? When I go shopping, nobody makes me
fill out a form based on my income, to determine what I should pay.
I'm charged the same as everyone else.

In fact, if they did charge me more, I would do my shopping in another
country.




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"otnmbrd" wrote in message link.net...
I'm not allowed any government insurance programs. My licenses do not
keep any licensed joker from trying to move in, only my performance does
that.


Ahah! Then you ARE worried about my moving in and
causing you to queue up in the unemployment line?

S.Simon

Simple Simon wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message link.net...

I'm not allowed any government insurance programs. My licenses do not
keep any licensed joker from trying to move in, only my performance does
that.



Ahah! Then you ARE worried about my moving in and
causing you to queue up in the unemployment line?

S.Simon


ROFL Only when you become a Master Mariner, as "I" define Master
Mariner, and dere ain't a snowballs chance in hell of dat.

otn

"otnmbrd" wrote in message link.net...


Simple Simon wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message link.net...

I'm not allowed any government insurance programs. My licenses do not
keep any licensed joker from trying to move in, only my performance does
that.



Ahah! Then you ARE worried about my moving in and
causing you to queue up in the unemployment line?

S.Simon


ROFL Only when you become a Master Mariner, as "I" define Master
Mariner, and dere ain't a snowballs chance in hell of dat.



Gotta get my license back first. :-(

S.Simon

My wife won a H( + )( + )ters' t-shirt. And I don't tip at all.

Scotty

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:31:57 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

If you were a waitress at Hooters (fat chance) and served the same meal
to
1) a very wealthy man, 2) a slob in a t-shirt, wouldn't you expect more
of a
tip from the 'rich guy'?

Hey! I like wearing t-shirts. I have a fine collection of Hooters
t-shirts. And i probably tip more than you.




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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:22:47 -0500, "The Carrolls"
wrote:

Can we get back to sailing threads? This is a sailing group after all, I think. Correct me if I am wrong.

That's a good idea. You go first.
Mark E. Williams

check Swan or Oyster. First time I have been here since you posted.
"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:22:47 -0500, "The Carrolls"
wrote:

Can we get back to sailing threads? This is a sailing group after all, I
think. Correct me if I am wrong.

That's a good idea. You go first.
Mark E. Williams